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   Canuck57 to abc   
   Re: =?windows-1252?Q?Canada=92s_rich_sti   
   05 Dec 11 10:23:33   
   
   XPost: soc.culture.canada, can.atlantic.general, can.general   
   XPost: can.politics, soc.culture.quebec, can.community.military   
   From: Canuck57@nospam.com   
      
   On 05/12/2011 8:37 AM, abc wrote:   
   >   
   > Canada’s rich still getting richer: OECD   
      
   But still poorer than most OEDC countries in household wealth.   
      
   > Eric Lam  Dec 5, 2011   
   >   
   > The wage gap between the top and bottom income earners in Canada is   
   > widening, largely due to tax policies, a new report from the Organization   
   > for Economic Co-operation and Development said Monday.   
      
   Funny, those top 10% pay 80% of the income taxes.   
      
   > The report found that the top 10% of Canadians in 2008 earned $103,500 on   
   > average, 10 times higher than the bottom 10%, who made an average of   
   > $10,260.   
      
   No full time worker makes $10K.  Counting part timers?   
      
   > This is up from a ratio of 8 to 1 in the early 1990s.   
      
   Probably will grow too.   
      
   > The top 1% of Canadians, meanwhile, saw their share of the country’s   
   > total income increase to 13.3% in 2007 from only 8.1% in 1980.   
      
   Yep, money is attracted to those that know how to manage it.  Too many   
   liberally raised kids don't know about conservative economic values.   
   Hazards of a liberal run school system designed to make good future dumb   
   debt-tax slaves.  Don't want the new citizens to understand economics or   
   they might question government finances and spending.   
      
   > And the very richest of Canadians, the top 0.1%, had their share of   
   > income more than double, to 5.3% from 2%.   
      
   Not true, but you can believe your bullshit.  Rich and income are two   
   different things.  Hate to bust your fleabagger water but I am a 1%er in   
   self made wealth and can tell you that you are full of shit.   
      
   > The results suggest Canada needs to update its tax policies as taxes and   
   > tax benefits in particular have become ineffective in wage   
   > redistribution, the OECD said.   
      
   OECD is a political bullshit organization anyway.  Primary purpose is to   
   give the perception that big fat ineffective expensive government is   
   required.  Sort of like a solution selling a problem that doesn't exist.   
      
   What keeps people down is their own government.  Government likes it has   
   it makes people work hard and pay lots of taxes.   
      
   > “The growing share of income going to top earners means that this group   
   > now has a greater capacity to pay taxes,” the report said. “In this   
   > context governments may re-examine the redistributive role of taxation to   
   > ensure that wealthier individuals contribute their fair share.”   
      
   Funny, and they are moving out.  I prefer wealth confiscation and   
   government consumption of wealth.  Redistribution is always one way,   
   government gets 75% for stuff that is not available for all Canadians.   
   Just a corrupt pork fest.   
      
   Because everyone in Canada pays for the big inefficient over taxing   
   Ottawa government.  If a disabled or vet on $1-50/month income needs a   
   down filled winter jacket, they spend $350 for a jack that is $150 in   
   the US that is made in India for $40.  The difference in prices is   
   mostly taxes and tax created inflation.   
      
   Most people in Canada have no clue on how hard they are tax screwed from   
   Ottawa greed.  But more are becoming aware.   
      
   > The top federal marginal income tax rates declined markedly in the past   
   > 30 years, falling to 29% in 2010 compared with 43% in 1981.   
      
   Ask yourself this, what is the maximum tax liability from all sources   
   that a person has?  What part of a persons wages should they be   
   guaranteed full value of without the greedy government tax grabs hidden   
   and real combined?   
      
   If you work, if you make more than $45K a year, own  home and no kids,   
   pretty good change you are taxed well past 50% and possibly 60% from all   
   sources of direct and indirect taxation.  Even your dental hygienist   
   charges more because of greedy government taxation (taxation as inflation).   
      
   Trouble is this makes us uncompetitive in the world and why   
   manufacturing is dying, our base society costs are too high for us to   
   compete.   
      
   > As well, tax benefits now only offset less than 40% of wage inequality,   
   > compared with more than 70% before the mid-1990s.   
      
   Funny, a G12 dropout jail bird wants the same salary as a heart surgeon.   
      
   Touch shit for the G12 drop out.  Time they face facts, get some needed   
   skills or do without.  It isn't liberalism at home feel good bullshit in   
   the real world, grow up.   
      
   > Other factors driving this inequality include a rise in self-employment,   
   > greater disparity in male wages (more women in the workforce helped   
   > offset this) and low-wage workers losing hours at a greater pace than   
   > higher-wage workers.   
      
   Get some skills solves the wage problem.  Do something for other people   
   they want and they will pay.  If people expect not to invest in   
   themselves, then they are a lower value commodity.   
      
   Hey, bet they don't teach that in liberal/union feel good G12.  But once   
   out of the school system reality, like it or not is going to hit them   
   straight in the face.  And for many, suicide, drugs, dysfunctional   
   behaviors set in making them a liability to society.  Just another punk   
   looking for a free lunch, and not worth minimum wage.   
      
   > The report recommends creation of more and better-paying jobs through   
   > investments in education at the childhood level as well as incentives for   
   > workers and employers to encourage skills investments throughout working   
   > life.   
      
   First good thing said.  But G12 is about raising good debt-tax sheeples.   
     What is good for the individual is not even in the top 5 objectives of   
   the G12 system.  Ra-ra government is always good, more taxes is good,   
   all to make you good compliant sheeples.   
      
   Of all the truly successful people I know, not a one waited nor depended   
   on government.  Government is designed to hold you back and manage   
   people like herd animals.   
      
   --   
   All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment   
   they think rationally.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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