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   Canuck57 to Alan Baggett   
   Re: Ottawa audits waiters, tries to keep   
   08 Aug 12 15:33:14   
   
   From: Canuck57@nospam.com   
      
   On 07/08/2012 11:41 AM, Alan Baggett wrote:   
   > Ottawa audits waiters, tries to keep it secret : CRA SOTW   
   >   
   > July 22, 2012 - 4:16am By Greg Neiman, Red Deer Advocate   
   >   
   >   
   > A Canada Revenue Agency report released last week — apparently all but pried   
   from a cabinet minister’s cold, dead hands — tells us very little that’s new   
   about the underground economy in the food service industry.   
      
   Why do you think owners want anti-credit card propaganda, they would   
   love to see cash in the til.  As with cash, they can skim it.   
      
   In fact there are cases where this is well known.   
      
   > But it’s quite enlightening as to how the federal government operates in   
   this age of openness and transparency.   
      
   Gov'mint transparent?  Which planet as it isn't this one?  Gov'ment runs   
   on bu11sh1t and deception.   
      
   > The total of undeclared income in St. Catharines came to about $1.7 million,   
   and if you extrapolate it across the country, that adds up to an estimated   
   $1.3 billion a year in undeclared income in the food service industry — in   
   2008 figures supplied by    
   Canada Revenue Agency. That’s out of Canada’s total underground economy   
   thought to be around $36 billion.   
      
   So?  That money went into the economy to provide jobs for others and is   
   much more effective than anything any corrupt gov'ment can do.  In fact,   
   the underground economy gets $1 of income, a $1 is spent which is much   
   more effective for job providing economic activity than a tax-slave   
   producer getting 33 cents value after income/employment/spend side taxes.   
      
   Yep, the more the gov'mint gets the less the people and economy get.   
   Taxation at high levels with low value returns repress jobs and economic   
   activity.   
      
   But hey, we have a tax greedy government(s).   
      
   It is why I charge the meal and put cash down for the tips.  They work   
   hard for their money and deserve more of their own incomes.   
      
   > What are the taxes owed on $1.3 billion of undeclared tips from the people   
   who serve you restaurant dinners? In relative terms, bloody little. Probably   
   not enough to pay for an audit.   
      
   Probably right, but it is about conformance of the masses.  It is about   
   government greed.  It is about control of the people.   
      
   So gov'mint will do anything to keep that conformance.  Plus, they are   
   easy to pick on.   
      
   > The report says waitresses mostly live on their tips, and that a very large   
   portion of serving staff are students who pay little or no income tax.   
      
   Funny how income/employment/spend taxes were so low in the past, broght   
   in to tax the "rich" and now we tax those on low income and working poor   
   for gov'mint greed.   
      
   We tax people in income/employment/spend side like they are tax slaves   
   of corrupt government state.   
      
   > Again . . . duh. In fact, that paltry $1,000 a month was in many cases as   
   much as double their wages. These people don’t have a tax problem, they have   
   an income problem.   
   > Yet Canada Revenue Agency put wait staff in St. Catharines on the front line   
   of a government war on the underground economy. In 2010. With no intention of   
   ever telling Canadians about it.   
      
   Funny, corrupt gov'mint also underestimates how much support people are   
   now giving to the underground economy.   
      
   It is now socially acceptable by the majority to cheat the Ottawa greed   
   in one way or another.   
      
   > They were stonewalled — illegally, it must be added — for 18 months, and   
   even then the copy they received was heavily censored.   
      
   So much for transparency.   
      
   > That’s maybe two jobs for a plumber or electrician — the kind who offer you   
   two bills for a home repair: one on the invoice, or one for much less, paid in   
   cash, no paperwork involved, wink, wink.   
      
   You bet, doing a kitchen reno, you can save $10k.   
      
   In fact, if you had to pay tax in rates much of this job creating   
   activity will decrease as people can't afford 2/3rds for greedy gov'mint   
   and 1/3 for value.   
      
   Take gas, $100 earned, $40 in employment/income tax to pay $27 in   
   gas/carbon taxes for $33 of gas in one order of earn/spend.   
      
   This also kicks up the price of materials, food, furnature....you name   
   it.  All for tax greed.   
      
   Hell, if you have $125 billion for corrupt banks, that is about one year   
   of all personal income tax in Canada.   
      
   Maybe time for this f---ing government greed to be put down.  Let people   
   have more of their own money and stop the waste.  No productive family   
   in Canada will lose anything if Ottawa got rid of:   
      
   - no F35s   
   - no more on rusty subs   
   - no more fake lakes   
   - no more billion dollar G20 parties, use cold lake or gander as they be   
   cheaper and secure.   
   - get rid of the useless senate   
   - no more equalization   
   - get rid of indentured FN slave taxes (Indian Affairs), they need to   
   get jobs like the rest of us, and pay taxes.   
      
   Time for government greed to be curtailed.   
      
   > The waste for the taxpayer in this report is obvious. Government could pass   
   a law requiring restaurants to include service fees in all restaurants — as is   
   done in many countries around the world. Living wages could be mandated for   
   wait staff, so they    
   don’t have to scrape for tips, or go home with no pay at all on days when some   
   cheapskate didn’t tip at all. (Not tipping is also a form of theft.)   
      
   Funny too, as that means less jobs.  Fewer people will go out to dine.   
   You already see this, more people dine out and provide jobs for students   
   in Alberta than say Montreal because it is far less taxing.   
      
   Government greed unemploys people and makes it harder for students and   
   young adults to get a fair start in life.   
      
   But we have big fat greedy government managing people like sheep.   
   Brainwashed, a well managed herd of stupid.   
      
   Government can't solve the economic problems as government greed is the   
   cause of the economic issues.   
      
   Tax people like slaves, and when that is not enough mortgage the grand   
   kids futures, and when that isn't enough, Carney can make the   
   unemploying electronic counterfeit inflation to screw the slaves.   
      
   So you can have a big corrupt gov'mint you and your kids can't afford.   
      
   > You can wait for that day for as long as you can wait for the federal   
   government to embrace perestroika.   
      
   Perestroika will fail.  As will Ottawa someday.  Every country in   
   economic trouble today has a governemtn footprint on producers that is   
   far too large.  That is, countries in trouble have high tax rates in   
   income/spend.....   
      
   Countries with the least troubles have a lower government spend and less   
   footprint on the producers.   
      
   Perestroika has failed everywhere it has been tried.   
      
   Take Nicaragua, they professed Marxism and socialism, one of the poorest   
   countries in the world.   
      
   Bottom line, producers making real stuff and not government bu11sh1t   
   need to keep more of their own hard earned money or there is no value in   
   the society for producers.   
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