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|    When Is A Loss Not A Loss? : CRA SOTW    |
|    12 Aug 14 03:50:52    |
      From: AlanBaggett@volcanomail.com              When Is A Loss Not A Loss? : CRA SOTW              Article by Keith Vincent, MNP              We all hate to lose money on a purchase or investment. Sometimes a little tax       relief can help ease the pain if you can deduct the loss against capital gains       you've realized, but often that very real loss is a 'nothing' for tax purposes.              One type of property that doesn't give rise to a tax loss is what's called       'personal use property.' If you bought a personal use vacation property, for       example, and sold it at a loss, you wouldn't be able to deduct the capital       loss against other capital        gains. If, on the other hand, you sold it for a gain, that would be taxable.       There are special rules to deal with small items where the purchase price and       the cost of the property are less than $1,000. Generally speaking, sales of       low value personal        items don't result in taxable events.              What if you lend money to someone and they don't repay you? Can you deduct       that loss? Maybe, maybe not. If you don't charge interest on the loan and       therefore you have no income-earning purpose, the loss would be considered a       nothing for tax. What if you        sell some personal property and agree to have the purchaser pay you over time?       If they don't repay the loan, that loss is more than likely not deductible as       well.              In the Tax Court of Canada case Elliott v The Queen (2005 TCC 135), the       taxpayer found herself in a situation where she lent a family company (in       which she had no direct interest) a total of $94,000. This amount was lost       when the company shut down and        could not repay her. In deciding against her, the judge made the following       comments:              Ms. Elliott's problem is not unusual, unfortunately. There are many people who       lend money and guarantee loans to small businesses to corporations in which       their spouses own shares but they do not. Many of these people are not       sophisticated in tax matters.        They do what they feel is important for the economic well-being of the       family. They do not consult lawyers or accountants who may advise how to       structure the loan or guarantee so, if something goes wrong, then, for tax       purposes, they could deduct at        least a portion of the money they may lose. Many of these people and their       spouses are hard-working people of modest means. They do what they think is       right; they are optimistic. They do not foresee possible failure. When failure       does come, they lose        everything....Our senior courts have told us there is no equity in a taxing       statute and as the Act is written, there is not much I can do to help Ms.       Elliott.              As this case demonstrates, there can be some harsh traps when dealing with       losses that arise from personal items or non-income producing items. But what       if you're dealing with your investment portfolio and you sell some stocks at a       loss? Surely you can        deduct those losses against capital gains, right?              Well, not necessarily. Let's say your investment advisor sees an opportunity       to sell 100 shares of a company that has lost value and use that loss to       offset gains you've had on other shares. That sounds like a good idea. But if       your investment advisor (       or your spouse's separate advisor) thinks that this cheap stock would be a       good one to hold onto in your spouse's portfolio and acquires that same 100       shares within 30 days of your sale, your loss is denied until your spouse       sells those shares.              Another situation that can arise is if you hold the same stock in more than       one investment account. Your investment advisor may want to sell a stock that       has gone down in value, but if you hold that same stock elsewhere and you       bought that stock in the        other account at a low price, you may actually have a gain because your total       cost of the stock has to be averaged over all of that particular stock you own       (regardless of the account in which it is sitting).              As I've shown here, it's very important to ensure that not only is the loss a       valid one for tax purposes, but that nothing is going to prevent you from       claiming a valid one.              The content of this article is intended to provide a general guide to the       subject matter. Specialist advice should be sought about your specific       circumstances.              -----------------------------------------------------------        Miss a Tax Tale Miss a lot!        Visit the CRA SOTW Library at http://canada.revenue.agency.angelfire.com        ------------------------------------------------------------        Alan Baggett - Tax Collector's Bible - http://taxcollectorsbible.com/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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