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      XPost: alt.security.espionage, alt.politics.trump, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: talk.politics.guns, sac.politics       From: democrat-criminals@mail.house.gov              https://fortune.com/2024/07/08/chinese-self-driving-cars-us-roads-data-       collection-surveillance-national-security-concerns-investigation/              ON FEB. 1 LAST YEAR, Montana residents gawked upward at a large white       object hovering in the sky that looked to be another moon. The airborne       object was in fact a Chinese spy balloon loaded with cameras, sensors, and       other high-tech surveillance equipment, and it set off a nationwide panic       as it drifted across the midwestern and southern United States. How much       information the balloon gathered—if any—remains unknown, but the threat       was deemed serious enough that an F-22 U.S. Air Force jet fired a       Sidewinder missile at the unmanned balloon on a February afternoon,       blasting it to pieces a few miles off the coast of South Carolina.              At the same time that the eyes of Americans were fixed on the Chinese       intruder in the sky, around 30 cars owned by Chinese companies and       equipped with cameras and geospatial mapping technology were navigating       the streets of greater Los Angeles, San Francisco, and San Jose. They       collected detailed videos, audio recordings, and location data on their       surroundings to chart out California’s roads and develop their autonomous       driving algorithms.              Since 2017, self-driving cars owned by Chinese companies have traversed       1.8 million miles of California alone, according to a Fortune analysis of       the state’s Department of Motor Vehicles data. As part of their basic       functionality, these cars capture video of their surroundings and map the       state’s roads to within two centimeters of precision. Companies transfer       that information from the cars to data centers, where they use it to train       their self-driving systems.              The cars are part of a state program that allows companies developing       self-driving technology—including Google spinoff Waymo and Amazon-owned       Zoox—to test autonomous vehicles on public roads. Among the 35 companies       approved to test by the California DMV, seven are wholly or partly China-       based. Five of them drove on California roads last year: WeRide, Apollo,       AutoX, Pony.ai, and DiDi Research America. Some Chinese companies are       approved to test in Arizona and Texas as well.              Fitted with cameras, microphones, and sophisticated sensors, self-driving       cars have long raised flags among privacy advocates. Matthew Guariglia, a       policy analyst at the digital rights nonprofit Electronic Frontier       Foundation, called self-driving cars “rolling surveillance devices” that       passively collect massive amounts of information on Americans in plain       sight.              In the context of national security, however, the data-hungry Chinese cars       have received surprisingly little scrutiny. Some experts have compared       them to Chinese-owned social media site TikTok, which has been subjected       to a forced divestiture or ban on U.S. soil due to fears around its data       collection practices threatening national security. The years-long       condemnation of TikTok at the highest levels of the U.S. government has       heightened the sense of distrust between the U.S. and China.              Some Chinese self-driving car companies appear to store U.S. data in       China, according to privacy policies reviewed by Fortune—a situation that       experts said effectively leaves the data accessible to the Chinese       government. Depending on the type of information collected by the cars,       the level of precision, and the frequency at which it’s collected, the       data could provide a foreign adversary with a treasure trove of       intelligence that could be used for everything from mass surveillance to       war planning, according to security experts who spoke with Fortune.              And yet, despite the sensitivity of the data, officials at the state and       federal agencies overseeing the self-driving car testing acknowledge that       they do not currently monitor, or have any process for checking, exactly       what data the Chinese vehicles are collecting and what happens to the data       after it is collected. Nor do they have any additional rules or policies       in place for oversight of Chinese self-driving cars versus the cars in the       program operated by American or European companies.              “It is literally the wild, wild West here,” said Craig Singleton, director       of the China program at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a       conservative-leaning national security think tank. “There’s no one in       charge.”              The lack of safeguards raises concerns not just because of the vast       amounts of data that autonomous cars collect in the ordinary course of       their operations, but also because of the ability of roaming vehicles to       surreptitiously collect other types of data. The potential for such       mischief was demonstrated back in 2010 when Google acknowledged that its       manually driven Street View mapping cars had for years hoovered up private       user data, including entire email communications and passwords, shared       over unsecured Wi-Fi networks by residents in more than 30 countries       (Google blamed the incident on a rogue employee).              There is no evidence that any of the Chinese companies testing self-       driving cars are doing any such things in the U.S. or that the data they       collect is being used by the Chinese government. But in the event that any       of the cars were doing so, security experts said American authorities       might not even know it given what many described as an astoundingly lax       system of oversight of the Chinese cars.              1.8 million              THE NUMBER OF MILES THAT CHINESE-OWNED AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES HAVE TRAVELED       IN CALIFORNIA SINCE 2017       At a time when U.S. fears of espionage have fueled high-profile efforts to       ban China-owned firms like TikTok and telecommunications equipment maker       Huawei, the Chinese self-driving cars roaming American roads represent a       little-noticed loophole that highlights the countless apertures for       surveillance in today’s tech-permeated landscape and the challenge of       mitigating all the risks.              To report this story, Fortune spoke with more than two dozen experts in       autonomous cars, data security, and U.S.-China relations. It also reached       out to representatives from all Chinese companies that test their       autonomous technologies in the U.S., as well as those of government       agencies related to vehicle safety, privacy, and national security. Most       experts agreed that while the U.S. government is beginning to take action,       it is significantly behind in regulating data security involving the       Chinese self-driving cars, including information transferred to       adversarial countries.              “We just don’t have a government in place now that has the technical       literacy—at all agencies—to deal with the autonomous functionality plus       data privacy plus cybersecurity,” said Missy Cummings, engineering              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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