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   NoBody to jfwalby@gmaill.com   
   Re: California Threatens to Arrest ICE A   
   02 Nov 25 09:12:32   
   
   XPost: alt.tv.pol-incorrect, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.immigration   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa   
   From: NoBody@nowhere.com   
      
   On Sat, 1 Nov 2025 16:28:36 -0500, The World of Is!   
    wrote:   
      
   >NoBody wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 29 Oct 2025 06:26:52 -0500, The World of Izz   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> NoBody wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 19:36:12 -0500, The World of Izz   
   >>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Collectivism_Always_Fails wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 18:18:55 -0400, Governor Swill   
   >>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Tue, 28 Oct 2025 11:34:44 -0400, Collectivism_Always_Fails   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Fri, 24 Oct 2025 21:05:01 -0400, Ubiquitous    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The insurrection continues apace. California officials, including   
   Nancy   
   >>>>>>>>> Pelosi, have threatened to arrest and criminally prosecute ICE   
   agents who   
   >>>>>>>>> allegedly violate California law. Pelosi and Congressman Kevin   
   Mullin issued   
   >>>>>>>>> this press release on Wednesday:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> :Reports of a planned mass immigration raid in the Bay Area are an   
   appalling   
   >>>>>>>>> :abuse of law enforcement power. Broad sweeps that target families   
   and   
   >>>>>>>>> :terrorize law-abiding residents betray our nation’s values and waste   
   >>>>>>>>> :resources that should focus on real threats to public safety.   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> :It is important to note that California law protects communities and   
   >>>>>>>>> :prevents federal agents from taking certain actions here that we   
   have   
   >>>>>>>>> :witnessed in other states. While the President may enjoy absolute   
   immunity   
   >>>>>>>>> :courtesy of his rogue Supreme Court, those who operate under his   
   orders do   
   >>>>>>>>> :not. Our state and local authorities may arrest federal agents if   
   they   
   >>>>>>>>> :break California law — and if they are convicted, the President   
   cannot   
   >>>>>>>>> :pardon them.   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> :The people of San Francisco will continue to stand with the   
   patriotic   
   >>>>>>>>> :immigrants who are the constant reinvigoration of America. We will   
   not be   
   >>>>>>>>> :intimidated by politically motivated fear tactics.   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> This statement can charitably be described as disgraceful. What are   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>> “certain actions” that federal agents have taken elsewhere that   
   supposedly   
   >>>>>>>>> would be illegal in California, and under what California laws?   
   Pelosi   
   >>>>>>>>> isn’t saying. The reference to “his rogue Supreme Court” is   
   outrageous,   
   >>>>>>>>> as is the threat that convictions under state law would be beyond   
   >>>>>>>>> presidential pardon.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Yesterday, the Department of Justice fired back:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> :The Justice Department on Thursday warned California officials,   
   including   
   >>>>>>>>> :Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), against engaging in an “apparent   
   criminal   
   >>>>>>>>> :conspiracy” to arrest Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)   
   agents.   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> :Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche issued the letter to Pelosi,   
   Gov.   
   >>>>>>>>> :Gavin Newsom, state Attorney General Rob Bonta and San Francisco   
   District   
   >>>>>>>>> :Attorney Brooke Jenkins after the former House speaker suggested   
   Wednesday   
   >>>>>>>>> :that local police could arrest ICE agents if they violate state   
   laws while   
   >>>>>>>>> :carrying out immigration enforcement operations.   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> :“Rather than supporting and working with federal law enforcement   
   >>>>>>>>> :professionals, California politicians, including U.S.   
   Representative Nancy   
   >>>>>>>>> :Pelosi and San Francisco District Attorney Brooke Jenkins, have   
   instead   
   >>>>>>>>> :called for state and local law enforcement officials to ‘arrest’   
   federal   
   >>>>>>>>> :agents and officers for enforcing federal laws enacted by the U.S.   
   Congress,   
   >>>>>>>>> :including federal immigration laws,” Blanche wrote in his missive.   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> :“The Department of Justice views any arrests of federal agents and   
   officers   
   >>>>>>>>> :in the performance of their official duties as both illegal and   
   futile,” he   
   >>>>>>>>> :added. “Numerous federal laws prohibit interfering with and impeding   
   >>>>>>>>> :immigration or other law-enforcement operations.”   
   >>>>>>>>> :   
   >>>>>>>>> :Blanche said the DOJ would “investigate and prosecute any state or   
   local   
   >>>>>>>>> :official” who flouts federal statutes or directs or conspires with   
   others   
   >>>>>>>>> :to violate them.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The prospect of arrests and counter-arrests is disheartening, to say   
   the   
   >>>>>>>>> least. What is going on here is not a legitimate state-based concern   
   about   
   >>>>>>>>> specific actions of law enforcement, but rather an unconstitutional   
   >>>>>>>>> obstruction of the enforcement of federal immigration laws. Under the   
   >>>>>>>>> Supremacy Clause, federal law takes precedence over state law. The   
   states   
   >>>>>>>>> have no ability to nullify immigration law, and any attempt to   
   obstruct   
   >>>>>>>>> the execution of federal law would be, as Assistant Attorney General   
   >>>>>>>>> Blanche wrote, a crime.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The Democrats are becoming ever more insurrectionist, with   
   consequences   
   >>>>>>>>> that are impossible to foresee, but are likely to be catastrophic.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Interfering with federal agents doing their job is a felony.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Civil disobedience has long been a form of protest used by, not just   
   >>>>>>> Americans, but other peoples as well.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> They best be careful because interfering with federal agents doing   
   >>>>>> their job is a felony.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Civil iseobeience covers it. The law is wrojng becausr immigrants are   
   >>>>> being taken here an there an it's not about their criminal recor it's   
   >>>>> only if they are not in a visa hearing. Perhaps it will be reuce to a   
   >>>>> felony when more people take up the cross. ICE is unfairly clogging our   
   >>>>> highways with their vehicles. I in't plan on these agents cluttering up   
   >>>>> the highway with.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Meanwhile illegal alien truckers are given licenses and actually kill   
   >>>> people.  You're concerned about traffic????   
   >>>>   
   >>> I really am concerned about traffic. What does ICE offer me except an   
   >>> unsolicited benefit? I didn't invite them. They are freeloading on my   
   >>> good will.   
   >>   
   >> Your priorities are way out of whack and self centered.  Also I didn't   
   >> invite the illegals here so my vote cancels yours.   
   >>   
   >I just caused a car wreck in New Mexico. Remember to be more honorable   
   >in your future convos.   
      
   Yawn...   
      
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