Hi Mark,

>>>> If I ignore her she bites... Getting old... I don't want to swat at
>>>> her or ruin our trust.

>>> Bite her back?  :)

>> Hmm... I've heard that doesn't work with kids, not sure why it might
>> work with cats hahaha

> because biting is one of the ways that they communucate... the same with
> swatting at them... mine out here will swat at each other when they look at
>each other sideways or when they are playing tag and chase in the yard...

hehe.. that is true Mark... I'd bet they tell each other to get lost with
those swats, etc. that I've seen.  Lulu is a longer, larger cat than her
sister Lola.. and Lola is always walking around with a nose that looks like it
just got a swat  to the tip of her nose from Lulu's long front legs ...

> it i
> kinda like my dogs... when we go out to the shop, they will come up and take
> our hand in their mouth to go with us to the shop door... some people think
> they are trying to bite them until we explain that a dog's mouth is like our
> hand... they just want to hold your hand...

Lol, I'm laughing because yes, my two pups do that as well... Indy especially.
Not always, but often enough, anywhere I go in the house, Indy will come over
to me as I'm walking and take a hand.  I figure he's just making sure he knows
where I'm going 

> back to the cats, some biting is
>easy and gentle... some is nipping while other is holding on and biting hard..
>it is just they way they are trying to communicate... once you figure out what
> they want when they do that, everything will be fine... but if it is hard
> biting, it wil take time for them to understand that it is too hard for the
> human and that's where swats come in... not a hard swat but just something on
> their nose or side to say "don't do that"...

Yep, I can see that.  I'll give it a try. :)

>> I bet my land-shark kitty would just plan her attacks on my feet
>> better Lol

>i've got several here that bit when they want attention or are feeling good...
>two of them lick me all the time when they are happy... another one will swat,
> hiss and attack if you do something to her that she doesn't like...

These two feral cats are very healthy, that's for sure.  I have feeling they
both would like us to get rid of the dogs, and each of these cats would like
to be "the only cat" :)

Ain't gonna happen 

Catnip works thank goodness... :)

Take care,
Janis

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