Hi Mike,

>-> Well, yesterday we became the happy owners of two yellow lab puppies, Sophi
> -> and Hooch, 8 week old littermates.. and what a handful they are !!!! :)

> Hi Janis!

> I am jealous already!

Aw :)  They are sooo cool though hahaha and tiny :) with sharp teeth and claws
Lol

> -> If anybody has been through something like this, yer comments are welcome
> Lol

> I think they are all different. In what I have read and in my
> experience, it is good to expose the Pups to Toby in a neutral area,
> such as outdoors, The pups will get used to him, but it is the pups that

Well, the kitchen idea worked well... after I got them tired out in there,
when I let them out they were calmer and the three of them did just fine :)  I
kept them out all day except after they ate, hoping they'd poop on their
papers in that kitchen and they um... mostly did Lol  Then last night I put
them back in there so I didn't have to worry about them while we were trying
to sleep .

This morning, they are completely nutso and Toby is playing with them
constantly.. giving them a warning growl, etc when necessary (don't blame
him,those puppy teeth HURT!! haha)  The pups didn't like being 'holed up' in
the other kitchen, but I'm sure the kittens sure did I bet :)  I saw Leo BOLT
out of the bedroom yesterday probably because he ran into them unexpectedly 


> could now make the alpha dog think he is losing territory, which may
> very well be when they grow up, but I think for the pups, it is just a

Yeah Hooch (or soon to be named Indy by my grandson, I hear ) is going to
be a big boy.. he's one of those pups with gigantic feet ... guess we'll see..
Sophie isn't mousy either though ..

> matter of getting used to everything. For Toby, it is that, plus
> security. But if there is no aggression already, I don't think You have
> a thing to worry about. The biggest problem would be Toby feeling
> threatened. But that does not seem to be the case. With the Kittens, You
> know more about that than I do for sure . Other than just watching
> how the big one plays, as I assume the little ones at 8 weeks are still
> small.. I would just enjoy the the living heck out of em and take
> pictures and or videos if You can.. They are only small once!

They are tiny :)  I have some pictures I'll post today and I'll try to get
some action - my camera does video as well as pics..

> Have a good One!
> Mike


> PS.. I am going to be asking You in a while, do the litter mates play
> rougher together, than usual, meaning rougher than say two different
> dogs, maybe even different ages from different litters. I got all kinds
> of advice, non specific, about is it a good idea to get littermates or
> not. I finally sided with the it's ok. However as I think I posted to

Know what you mean.. with Priscilla and Toby, we went through a rough time
when Toby was a er.. teenager haha.. and these two new pups are at each other
all the time..  toby gets in there too (he can't resist a tumble) and you see
the three of them doing the dance play thing with their posture.. it's SO
funny to see :)  then now and again one of the pups come over to me, and their
head is soaking wet.. probably from Toby's mouth .. But their great
together really
:)

> you before, these two, love each other dearly, but seem to be, shall we
> say, so familiar with each other, they can get to playing and at times
> just get soooo rough. It could be that it's just their personalities.
> But It did make me wish, though I would not trade them for the world.
> That maybe I would have raised one to a year and then got another,
> rather than raising the two. But again, if it is a personality thing,
> that would not have mattered. If it is because they have been play
> fighting since the crib.. Then I would have tried to alleviate the
> situation. But like I said, they make it sound like championship dog
> fights one minute and are curled up sleeping together 2 minutes later.
> So let me know how Yours go...

Sure will   And I bet I'll be asking you plenty of questions 

Take care,
Janis

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