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   From: theprof@jonez.net   
      
   "krp"  wrote in message   
   news:6yWBl.1651$6n.1535@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...   
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   > "Deadrat"  wrote in message   
   > news:t5WBl.15981$D32.6835@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...   
   >   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Churchill wins civil case   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By Felisa Cardona The Denver Post   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Posted: 04/02/2009 11:24:46 AM MDT   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ward Churchill won his case against the University of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado today as a Denver   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jury unanimously decided he was fired in retaliation for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his controversial essay   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Denver Chief District Judge Larry J. Naves will decide   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether the former professor can return to his job or   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> receive front pay for years he may have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worked at CU in a separate hearing.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agree or disagree with Churchill's philosophies.. and I   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> disagree.. he was clearly   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the right here. The law is the law, whether you like the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> person suing or not.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> HOW can he be "in the right" when he was guilty of MASSIVE   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> academic fraud?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Precisely.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Precisely?  The gov (in the person of the university) should   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> have exercised its due diligence and discovered the MASSIVE   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> ACADEMIC FRAUD when they hired the clown.  They didn't.  They   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> don't get a do-over *because* Ward shot his mouth off.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What don't you understand about freedom of speech?  Why do   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> you hate our freedoms?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> REALLY? FREEDOM TO LIE as an EDUCATOR?  Where do you find THAT   
   >>>>>>>>>>> in the Constitution Mr. Rodent?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> This is your hobbyhorse, so you ride it.  There is no freedom   
   >>>>>>>>>> to commit academic fraud, and if the state had done its job in   
   >>>>>>>>>> the first place, then Ward would be out of a job (or he would   
   >>>>>>>>>> never have had one in the first place).   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>     He *IS* out of a job. The JURY did NOT award him his job   
   >>>>>>>>>     back. They gave him ONE DOLLAR!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> In *damages*  It's a pending issue as to whether he gets his job   
   >>>>>>>> back or he gets compensated for his job loss.  But it will be one   
   >>>>>>>> of the two.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> LOOK WEENIE.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Oops!  You lose.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> He got his COMPENSATION.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> No, that's his *damages*   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     Rodent - that is ALL he gets from the court. PERIOD!!!!!!  He   
   >>>>>     can file a MOTION to have the court compell the University to   
   >>>>>     give him back his job.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> And the court will either order the university to give it back to him   
   >>>> or order the university to make him whole with money.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>> That is ALL he is going to get. PERIOD. ONE DOLLAR!  $1.00. A   
   >>>>>>> BUCK. As to the job he can TRY to file a motion for a Order from   
   >>>>>>> the judge to compell the University to rehire him. Most legal   
   >>>>>>> scholars think his hopes in that regard are childish.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Please name such a legal scholar.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     Do Judges count in YOUR WORLD Ratboi?   
   >>>   
   >>>> In my WORLF and in my WORLD.  Please name one.   
   >>>   
   >>>     I could START for fun with retired Judge Nicholas Napoletano.   
   >>>     Because I   
   >>> KNOW you'll get a woodie that he consults FOX NEWS. Can't wait for   
   >>> your rant.   
   >   
   >> You're calling me names and throwing about ALL CAPS, but you think *I'm*   
   >> ranting.  I told you judges count, but apparently all you've got is   
   >> someone who isn't a judge but who works for Faux News.  Nice try.   
   >   
   >    RETIRED JUDGE See I KNEW what your response would be that's WHY I started   
   > with him.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>> the ass ADMITED both the plagerism   
   >>>>>>> and the factgual falsehoods in his "scholarly writings." He just   
   >>>>>>> MADE SHIT UP and claimed it was fact. Doubtful he is going   
   >>>>>>> anywhere but life on the unemployment line or a job with MSNBC as   
   >>>>>>> a News Anchor.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> He was fired illegally.  He will either get his job back or be   
   >>>>>> compensated for its taking.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>     his SHOT was in the trail. The jury gave him ONE DOLLAR!   
   >>>>>     Drastic   
   >>>>> OVERPAYMENT for a lying shitbag!   
   >>>   
   >>>> He took his shot and he won.  He claimed he was illegally fired and   
   >>>> the jury agreed.  He will now receive a remedy for the illegal action   
   >>>> taken against him.  This is entirely separate from the issue of   
   >>>> ancillary damages.  What's not to understand?   
   >>>   
   >>>     YEAH RIGHT Ratboi. If he wants his job back he'll have to fine a   
   >>>     post verdict motion.   
   >>   
   >> Which is, of course, exactly what he'll do.   
   >>   
   >>> Nobody I know thinks it has a chance in hell of winning.   
   >   
   >> But you're an ignoramus.  Do you even know anyone who isn't an ignoramus?   
   >   
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