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From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net
Matt wrote:
> On Nov 2, 2:09 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" @comcast.net> wrote:
>> Matt wrote
>> innews:d80a4e05-3dfb-4bbe-9b6b-702f6fad61bd@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 10:18 pm, "Scout"
>>> wrote:
>>>> Matt wrote:
>>>>> On Oct 31, 11:39 am, "Scout"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Matt wrote:
>>>>>>> On Oct 31, 10:58 am, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Matt wrote
>>>>>>>> innews:e5c6e48b-b2b6-4bb8-b0cd-519bf40a4191@m38g2000yqd.googlegro
>>>>>>>> ups
>>> .com:
>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2:34 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "leg@sea" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> innews:hcfe6s$aeg$1@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 8:29 pm, "leg@sea" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 7:09 pm, "leg@sea" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Telles felches spaniels in the break room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blah blah blah, Spammy is the 12 year old that rapes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little boys. Point proven.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How's life by the reservoir, shall we up the ante?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow, you mean you are going to reveal my (*gasp*) name and
>>>>>>>>>>>> address, Spammy? Gee, anyone with a PHONE BOOK can do that.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I _sure hope_ none of those 'crazed' gun owners you're
>>>>>>>>>>> always trying to disenfranchise finds there was over to
>>>>>>>>>>> Lakewood, Colorado, Matty...
>>
>>>>>>>>>> They probably won't pay any attention to his
>>>>>>>>>> address.....after all, the vast majority of them are adult
>>>>>>>>>> enough to realize that differences of opinion exist....and
>>>>>>>>>> always will.
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Done raping the 12 year old boys, Spammy?
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Done trying to take away peoples' rights to own guns Matty?
>>
>>>>>>>>>> He hasn't tried to take mine away.....or yours if you have
>>>>>>>>>> one. He simply has different ideas on gun control.
>>
>>>>>>>>> Eh, Spammy and I go way back to his Uncle Sam days on
>>>>>>>>> co.general. Allegedly, he lives here. He doesn't like being
>>>>>>>>> shown up.
>>
>>>>>>>>> As for gun control, I do have different ideas. I think that
>>>>>>>>> what works in
>>>>>>>>> one place won't work in another. In other words, I like the
>>>>>>>>> concept of local control over matters. Does anyone truly
>>>>>>>>> disagree?
>>
>>>>>>>> Yep. I believe in state control but not city by city. Why
>>>>>>>> should someone doing something perfectly legal where he lives
>>>>>>>> be thrown in jail
>>>>>>>> while seeing his brother a few blocks over?
>>
>>>>>>> My easy answers to that would be the states of NY, CA and TX.
>>
>>>>>>> Consider:
>>
>>>>>>> Upstate NY is generally rural, very few very large cities,
>>>>>>> considerable wild life,
>>>>>>> no urban areas at all to speak of. Downstate, on the other hand,
>>>>>>> is mostly
>>>>>>> urban. Do you think the same rules would apply to both?
>>
>>>>>> Generally, yes.
>>
>>>>>> because ownership and carry are irrelevent to where you live. Now
>>>>>> if you want to talk USE.....like setting up a shooting range in
>>>>>> your back yard, you might have something. However, to prohibit
>>>>>> ownership or carry simply because one lives in a city, that makes
>>>>>> no sense.
>>
>>>>> Sorry, I wasn't referring to ownership. I simply meant that the
>>>>> rules that apply
>>>>> in one place don't always work in another. I think you'd refer to
>>>>> that as 'use'.
>>
>>>> Then you have no problem with gun ownership, and legal carry in any
>>>> city?
>>
>>> Legal OWNERSHIP, no. Legal carry is a different issue. Carrying a
>>> gun on a subway is a disaster waiting to happen. THis is my
>>> opinion, of course, yours can and will vary.
>>
>> Why do you have that opinion? What signs do you have that legal
>> carry on
>> a subway is a disaster waiting to happen?
>
> Why do you believe it is not? How much time have you spent in the NY
> subway
> system? We can discuss it from there.
And naturally, the NYC has the only subway system in the US.
I will simply note you couldn't answer the questions asked of you. You could
only avoid them.
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>>> I'm not pushing for laws to remove your right to
>>> carry a gun,
>>
>> Yes, you are.
>
> Really. Why is that? Because I don't want one in my house?
If your home was the only issue, then no one would have an issue with you,
but unless you think your home is the subway system, then clearly the issue
is much larger than your home.
Of course, maybe you are a homeless bumb living in the NYC subway.
> Interesting. You
> don't think my rights matter, but you believe yours do. Very
> interesting.
Really? Where has he said he wants to be able to legally bring a gun into
your home against your wishes?
The only one that is bitching about someone exercising their rights, is you.
>>
>>> I'm simply asking that my rights be covered as well.
>>
>> If you think your right is not be around my concealed firearm, then,
>> yes,
>> unlees you intend to stay home, you are pushing for laws to remove my
>> right to carry. Now, exactly which right or yours do you think is
>> offended if I carry a firearm?
>
> I believe that public places are areas where the minimum of rights
> apply.
And naturally, you believe that all public places are your home. So what
does that make you? Homeless and living in public places?
Seems you wish to restrict his rights even in public places. Sorry, but just
because you're homeless and living on the street doesn't make it your home,
or give you the right to tell everyone else what they can do in public
places.
> If you do not, you want to apply your rights over mine.
On the contrary, he is perfectly willing to let you decide if you wish to
carry a gun in public places or not. It is you that is forcing him to
restrict his rights because you have an attitude.
> That seems to
> me
> to be rather insane. But hey, that does seem to be the opinion here.
Your views concerning guns certainly seem to be based in insanity.
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