XPost: alt.politics, talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.art-bell   
   From: leg@sea   
      
   Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   > In talk.politics.guns "leg@sea" wrote:   
   >   
   >> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>> In talk.politics.guns "leg@sea" wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Matt wrote:   
   >>>>> On Nov 5, 5:19 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>> @comcast.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>> Matt wrote in news:c7f26fc7-8253-4119-ab1f-   
   >>>>>> a4c6c8c0b...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com:   
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   >>>>>>> On Nov 5, 4:12 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Matt wrote in news:c625d3fb-f8ab-4ef8-a74b-   
   >>>>>>>> 8ae131e3d...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 5:14 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>> @yahoo.com>   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Matt wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 7:26 am, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>> @yahoo.co   
   >>>>>>> m>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Matt wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I do see his point. The problem is, you are only looking at it   
   >>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> one viewpoint.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have rights as well, and your rights stop where mine start.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> My gun ownership has zero effect on your rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> I agree.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Your gun CARRYING does have an effect on my rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>> My carrying a gun has absolutely ZERO effect on your rights.   
   >>>>>>>>> Really. "Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness".   
   >>>>>>>>> Try again. Better yet, don't. You disagree with me, and that's fine.   
   >>>>>>>>> But simply repeating the same old rhetoric with more and more   
   >>>>>>>>> hyperbole isn't getting anyone anywhere.   
   >>>>>>>> Or you. Please be specific about how my carrying of a gun affects   
   >>>>>> your   
   >>>>>>>> "life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness". None of those are   
   >>>>>> affect   
   >>>>>>> ed   
   >>>>>>>> unless your pursuit of happiness includes disarming me.   
   >>>>>>> If you are carrying a gun in a place that I *Must* frequent (as   
   >>>>>>> opposed to   
   >>>>>>> may, or could) then I consider my life at risk.   
   >>>>>> Two questions:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 1. The only place I can think of where you *MUST* frequent would be a   
   >>>>>> government office. Guns are usually banned in there. Do you have some   
   >>>>>> other place in mind?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> 2. Just how would my having a gun put your life at risk? Are you   
   >>>>>> planning to attack me or threaten my life?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Are you seriously going to   
   >>>>>>> tell me that no gun owner or carrier has ever killed anyone that   
   >>>>>>> wasn't threatening them?   
   >>>>>> Nope, because it has happened. Of course your odds of being killed in a   
   >>>>>> Tornado or be struck by lightning are higher that that occurrence. If   
   >>>>>> you have proof of the contrary, then feel free to post it.   
   >>>>> FORT HOOD, Texas – A military mental health doctor facing deployment   
   >>>>> overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army base on Thursday, setting   
   >>>>> off on a rampage that   
   >>>> So you want ALL your fellow soldiers disarmed?!?!   
   >>> What do you mean 'fellow soldiers?"   
   >>>   
   >>> Are you insinuating that Matt is one of America's Fighting Men?   
   >> Lol, not for a minute.   
   >>   
   >> But his gripe was other people having firearms in places he *MUST* frequent.   
   >>   
   >> So ergo if he were in the military, HE would have BIG TIME problem with   
   >> his fellow soldiers, yes?   
   >   
   > Gotcha. If he could only, somehow, muster the courage and tell me how   
   > my carrying a gun infringes on his rights, well, we might get   
   > somewhere. But obviously his inability to describe this scenario has   
   > caused him great mental conflict.   
      
   Oodles, so he dissembles and decouples.   
      
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