XPost: alt.politics, talk.politics.guns, alt.fan.art-bell   
   From: leg@sea   
      
   Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   > In talk.politics.guns "leg@sea"  wrote:   
   >   
   >> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>> In talk.politics.guns "leg@sea"  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Klaus Schadenfreude wrote:   
   >>>>> In talk.politics.guns "leg@sea"  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Matt wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Nov 5, 5:19 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Matt  wrote in news:c7f26fc7-8253-4119-ab1f-   
   >>>>>>>> a4c6c8c0b...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 4:12 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Matt  wrote in news:c625d3fb-f8ab-4ef8-a74b-   
   >>>>>>>>>> 8ae131e3d...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 5:14 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>> @yahoo.com>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Matt  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 7:26 am, Klaus Schadenfreude >>>>>>> @yahoo.co   
   >>>>>>>>> m>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Matt  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do see his point. The problem is, you are only looking at it   
   >>>>>>>>>> from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one viewpoint.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have rights as well, and your rights stop where mine start.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> My gun ownership has zero effect on your rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Your gun CARRYING does have an effect on my rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> My carrying a gun has absolutely ZERO effect on your rights.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Really. "Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness".   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Try again. Better yet, don't. You disagree with me, and that's   
   fine.   
   >>>>>>>>>>> But simply repeating the same old rhetoric with more and more   
   >>>>>>>>>>> hyperbole isn't getting anyone anywhere.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Or you.  Please be specific about how my carrying of a gun affects   
   >>>>>>>> your   
   >>>>>>>>>> "life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness".  None of those are   
   >>>>>>>> affect   
   >>>>>>>>> ed   
   >>>>>>>>>> unless your pursuit of happiness includes disarming me.   
   >>>>>>>>> If you are carrying a gun in a place that I *Must* frequent (as   
   >>>>>>>>> opposed to   
   >>>>>>>>> may, or could) then I consider my life at risk.   
   >>>>>>>> Two questions:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 1.  The only place I can think of where you *MUST* frequent would be a   
   >>>>>>>> government office.  Guns are usually banned in there.  Do you have   
   some   
   >>>>>>>> other place in mind?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> 2.  Just how would my having a gun put your life at risk?  Are you   
   >>>>>>>> planning to attack me or threaten my life?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Are you seriously going to   
   >>>>>>>>> tell me that no gun owner or carrier has ever killed anyone that   
   >>>>>>>>> wasn't threatening them?   
   >>>>>>>> Nope, because it has happened.  Of course your odds of being killed   
   in a   
   >>>>>>>> Tornado or be struck by lightning are higher that that occurrence.  If   
   >>>>>>>> you have proof of the contrary, then feel free to post it.   
   >>>>>>> FORT HOOD, Texas – A military mental health doctor facing deployment   
   >>>>>>> overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army base on Thursday, setting   
   >>>>>>> off on a rampage that   
   >>>>>> So you want ALL your fellow soldiers disarmed?!?!   
   >>>>> What do you mean 'fellow soldiers?"   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Are you insinuating that Matt is one of America's Fighting Men?   
   >>>> Lol, not for a minute.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But his gripe was other people having firearms in places he *MUST*   
   frequent.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So ergo if he were in the military, HE would have BIG TIME problem with   
   >>>> his fellow soldiers, yes?   
   >>> Gotcha. If he could only, somehow, muster the courage and tell me how   
   >>> my carrying a gun infringes on his rights, well, we might get   
   >>> somewhere. But obviously his inability to describe this scenario has   
   >>> caused him great mental conflict.   
   >> Oodles, so he dissembles and decouples.   
   >   
   > I just noticed the post where he describes his affection and   
   > admiration for Sandman and dismisses us. I'm going to assume that   
   > means I's going to avoid tackling the problem I gave him to work out.   
      
      
   Oh indeed, Matty will kiss ass like a faggot in a bar full of bikers if   
   he thinks he can shut the discussion off.   
      
   He does this all the time.   
      
   It's really quite a pathetic and disgraceful behavior, but that's Matty   
   for ya.   
      
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