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From: leg@sea
RD (The Sandman) wrote:
> Matt wrote in
> news:ffcc6c40-b964-4c65-9dbc-21eca9da55ca@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On Nov 8, 10:14 am, "RD (The Sandman)" > @comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Matt wrote
>>> innews:d2fc471c-bf16-4ac8-a554-7dc19a
>> c6b744@k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Nov 7, 11:16 am, "RD (The Sandman)" >>> @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Matt wrote
>>>>> innews:d30aee9d-efd9-4b55-b7ee-a5808f
>>>> 8ed...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>> On Nov 6, 11:57 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray
>>>>>> Ghost
>> )
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> "RD (The Sandman)" wrote
>>>>>>> innews:Xns9CBB
>>>>>> 668B08A2hopew...@216.196.97.130:
>>>>>>>> Matt wrote in
>>>>>>>> news:64cd7060-e8e2-437f-abec-10f68a25c196@j4g2000yqe.googlegrou
>>>>>>>> ps. com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 5:58 pm, "RD (The Sandman)" >>>>>>>> @comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Matt wrote
>>>>>>>>>> innews:2a516e09-93ad-4cbe-93f1-a143ae
>>>>>>>>> 3bb...@r24g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 5:19 pm, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c7f26fc7-8253-4119-ab1f-
>>>>>>>>>>>> a4c6c8c0b...@g10g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 5, 4:12 pm, "RD (The Sandman)"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:c625d3fb-f8ab-4ef8-a74b-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8ae131e3d...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 5:14 pm, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 3, 7:26 am, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @yahoo.co m> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do see his point. The problem is, you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only looking at it from one viewpoint.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have rights as well, and your rights stop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where mine start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My gun ownership has zero effect on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your gun CARRYING does have an effect on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My carrying a gun has absolutely ZERO effect on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your rights.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really. "Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try again. Better yet, don't. You disagree with me,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that's fine. But simply repeating the same old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rhetoric with more and more hyperbole isn't getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Or you. Please be specific about how my carrying of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a gun affect s your "life, liberty or your pursuit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of happiness". None of those are affect ed unless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your pursuit of happin
>>>>>> ess
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> includes disarming me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are carrying a gun in a place that I *Must*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequent (as opposed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> may, or could) then I consider my life at risk.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Two questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. The only place I can think of where you *MUST*
>>>>>>>>>>>> frequen
>> t
>>>>>>>>>>>> woul
>>>>>> d
>>>>>>>>>>>> be a government office. Guns are usually banned in
>>>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>> Do
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> ha ve so me other place in mind?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Just how would my having a gun put your life at
>>>>>>>>>>>> risk?
>>
>>>> Are
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> planning to attack me or threaten my life?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you seriously going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell me that no gun owner or carrier has ever killed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone that wasn't threatening them?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope, because it has happened. Of course your odds of
>>>>>>>>>>>> being killed in a Tornado or be struck by lightning are
>>>>>>>>>>>> higher that that occurrence. If you have proof of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> contrary, then fee
>>>> l
>>>>>>>>>>>> free t
>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>>>> post it.
>>>>>>>>>>> FORT HOOD, Texas – A military mental health doctor facing
>>>>>>>>>>> deployment overseas opened fire at the Fort Hood Army
>>>>>>>>>>> base on Thursday, setting off on a rampage that killed 11
>>>>>>>>>>> other people and left 31 wounded. Authorities killed the
>>>>>>>>>>> gunman, and the violence was believed to be the worst
>>>>>>>>>>> mass shooting in history at a U.S. military base.
>>>>>>>>>>> The shooting began around 1:30 p.m., when shots were
>>>>>>>>>>> fired at the base's Soldier Readiness Center, where
>>>>>>>>>>> soldiers who are about to be deployed or who are
>>>>>>>>>>> returning undergo medical screening, said Lt. Gen. Bob
>>>>>>>>>>> Cone at Fort Hood.
>>>>>>>>>> Yep, aware of it. You do realize that most Democrats and
>>>>>>>>>> antigunne
>>>>>> rs
>>>>>>>>>> feel that guns should be restricted to just law enforcement
>>>>>>>>>> or the military. How did that work for you at Ft Hood?
>
> Here is your question.......
>
>>>>>>>>> How did it work for YOU? Could you stand up to an armed
>>>>>>>>> soldier?
>>>>>>> Civilains, properly armed have been standing up to soldiers
>>>>>>> throughout history. You use your civilian gun to get yourself
>>>>>>> some military hardware
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> Don't you read?
>>>>>> On a very small scale, I will agree with you. There has not,
>>>>>> however, been an
>>>>>> armed revolt against the military that has worked in quite some
>>>>>> time. There have
>
> There is where you changed it.
>
>>>>>> been some guerilla efforts that have worked for a short time.
>>>>>> Can you name a time
>>>>>> in modern history when the armed populace have successfully
>>>>>> stopped a large
>>>>>> scale army?
>>>>> Afghanistan.......Viet Nam
>>>> Recheck the thread,
>>> The thread was about standing up to an armed soldier. That is how you
>>> started it. Then you modified it to armed revolt against the
>>> military.
>> The discussion about armed revolt was, I think, Scout's. I could be
>> wrong,
>> it takes forever to scan through the whole thing.
>
> You needn't go too far. Scan up about twenty five lines.
>
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