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   Dave U. Random to Obama Tells Military To Fire On Ame   
   Re: Political Corruption at CBS News?   
   07 May 13 05:01:35   
   
   XPost: alt.politics.usa.constitution, dc.urban-planning, talk.politics.guns   
   XPost: wa.politics   
   From: anonymous@anonymitaet-im-inter.net   
      
   On Tue, 07 May 2013, "Obama Tells Military To Fire On American Citizens"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Charles Osgood, the host of CBS Sunday Morning, shocked many   
   >viewers when he introduced a segment that called for the   
   >abolishment of the U.S. Constitution.   
   >   
   >“Is the U.S. Constitution truly worthy of the reverence in which   
   >most Americans hold it,” Osgood asked his viewers.   
   >   
   >He then introduced Georgetown University Professor Louis Michael   
   >Seidman — who launched into a lengthy essay bashing the Founding   
   >Fathers and the Constitution.   
   >   
   >“I’ve got a simple idea: Let’s give up on the Constitution,” he   
   >said.   
   >   
   >Seidman is a professor of Constitutional Law at Georgetown. He   
   >said Constitutional disobedience is “as American as apple pie.”   
   >   
   >“If we are to take back our own country, we have to start making   
   >decisions for ourselves, and stop deferring to an ancient and   
   >outdated document,” he said.   
   >   
   >The segment ended without any objections from Osgood.   
   >   
   >(CBS News) Is the U.S. Constitution truly worthy of the   
   >reverence in which most Americans hold it? A view on that from   
   >Louis Michael Seidman, Professor of Constitutional Law at   
   >Georgetown University:   
   >   
   >I’ve got a simple idea: Let’s give up on the Constitution.   
   >   
   >I know, it sounds radical, but it’s really not. Constitutional   
   >disobedience is as American as apple pie.   
   >   
   >For example, most of our greatest Presidents — Jefferson,   
   >Lincoln, Wilson, and both Roosevelts — had doubts about the   
   >Constitution, and many of them disobeyed it when it got in their   
   >way.   
   >   
   >To be clear, I don’t think we should give up on everything in   
   >the Constitution. The Constitution has many important and   
   >inspiring provisions, but we should obey these because they are   
   >important and inspiring, not because a bunch of people who are   
   >now long-dead favored them two centuries ago.   
   >   
   >Unfortunately, the Constitution also contains some provisions   
   >that are not so inspiring. For example, one allows a   
   >presidential candidate who is rejected by a majority of the   
   >American people to assume office. Suppose that Barack Obama   
   >really wasn’t a natural-born citizen. So what?   
   >   
   >Constitutional obedience has a pernicious impact on our   
   >political culture. Take the recent debate about gun control.   
   >None of my friends can believe it, but I happen to be skeptical   
   >of most forms of gun control.   
   >   
   >I understand, though, that’s not everyone’s view, and I’m eager   
   >to talk with people who disagree.   
   >   
   >But what happens when the issue gets Constitutional-ized? Then   
   >we turn the question over to lawyers, and lawyers do with it   
   >what lawyers do. So instead of talking about whether gun control   
   >makes sense in our country, we talk about what people thought of   
   >it two centuries ago.   
   >   
   >Worse yet, talking about gun control in terms of constitutional   
   >obligation needlessly raises the temperature of political   
   >discussion. Instead of a question on policy, about which   
   >reasonable people can disagree, it becomes a test of one’s   
   >commitment to our foundational document and, so, to America   
   >itself.   
   >   
   >This is our country. We live in it, and we have a right to the   
   >kind of country we want. We would not allow the French or the   
   >United Nations to rule us, and neither should we allow people   
   >who died over two centuries ago and knew nothing of our country   
   >as it exists today.   
   >   
   >If we are to take back our own country, we have to start making   
   >decisions for ourselves, and stop deferring to an ancient and   
   >outdated document.   
   >   
   >http://nation.foxnews.com/cbs-news/2013/01/28/political-corruption-cbs-news   
      
   The "constitution" was never worth the paper it was printed on.  All   
   of it is lies.  All of it.   
      
   So in this sense, the teleprompter script-writers were being honest,   
   for once.  They are like a serial killer wanting to be caught.   
      
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