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   On 01/30/2017 05:59 PM, It's Not Too Late To Stop wrote:   
   > 'Homosexual Pedophiles': A Clinical Term   
   >   
   > The fact is, however, that the terms "homosexual" and "pedophile" are   
   > not mutually exclusive: they describe two intersecting types of   
   > sexual attraction. Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as   
   > someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex.   
   > "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to   
   > young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the   
   > desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the   
   > desired sexual object.   
   >   
   > A male "homosexual pedophile," then, is defined as someone who is   
   > generally (but not exclusively, see below) sexually attracted to   
   > boys, while a female "homosexual pedophile" is sexually attracted to   
   > girls.   
   >   
   > Furthermore, Herek deceitfully leaves out the salient facts in the   
   > Jenny study, which Dailey explains in Footnote 23 of his article:   
   >   
   > The Jenny study used this narrow profile despite the fact that the   
   > study itself found that 22 percent of the perpetrators were of the   
   > same sex as the victim. In these cases the molesters clearly engaged   
   > in homosexual sexual molestation.   
   >   
   > Twenty-two percent of the molestations were homosexual, and using a   
   > 2% figure for the percentage that homosexuals are of the total   
   > population, this would be a ratio of 11 to 1. On a probability basis,   
   > homosexuals are 11 times more likely to molest children than   
   > heterosexuals. This fits in the low end of most valid statistics on   
   > this problem. They generally range from 10 to 30 times. Also these   
   > figures are very conservative for two reasons. By far, most of the   
   > homosexual molesters are men abusing boys; and sexual abuse of boys   
   > is under-reported. And, since there are both men and women in the 2%   
   > homosexual category, using 2% is too high for the number of   
   > homosexual men. On the under-reporting of sexual abuse by boys, the   
   > Dailey article states:   
   >   
   > Dr. Robert Johnson, in Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, reports:   
   > "The vast majority of cases of male sexual molestation is not   
   > reported. As a result, these young men keep both the incidents and   
   > their feelings to themselves."   
   >   
   > The Department of Justice report on child sexual exploitation   
   > explains why the percentage of boy victims is underestimated:   
   > "Adolescent boy victims are highly likely to deny certain types of   
   > sexual activity. . . . They are embarrassed and ashamed of their   
   > behavior and rightfully believe that society will not understand   
   > their victimization. ... No matter what the investigator does, most   
   > adolescent boys will deny they were victims."   
   >   
   > And certainly if the boy does not report the molestation, the   
   > molester is not going to. Therefore, a very large number of the   
   > homosexual molestations never come to light.   
   >   
   > On a Marshall, et al, study referred to by Dailey, Herek tries to   
   > detract from its relevance by making such statements as:   
   >   
   > The offenders were not asked their sexual orientation (gay, straight,   
   > bisexual) and the paper does not report any information about the   
   > nature of the offenders' adult sexual relationships, or even if they   
   > had any such relationships.   
   >   
   > First, the study clearly showed that it was of men who molested boys.   
   > This in itself shows that they were homosexual pedophiles. Herek   
   > tries to get away form this by his special definitions. The study   
   > even went further and showed that the molesters were also "attracted   
   > to men of all ages." Herek still tries to argue that even this has no   
   > bearing on whether or not they were homosexuals. It certainly can get   
   > ridiculous when you abandon common sense. Herek completely ignores   
   > another Marshall study referred to by Dailey, where 30% of the male   
   > sex offenders admitted to sex with adult males, as well as with the   
   > boys they molested.   
   >   
   > Herek criticizes a study of Bickley & Beech referred to by Dailey.   
   > The thrust of the criticism seems to be that there were other studies   
   > that were somewhat different, and that the studies had little meaning   
   > because they focused only on the sex of the victim, without   
   > determining the sex of the offender. However, it has been well   
   > established that the vast majority of child molesters are male, so   
   > male molestation of boys would be homosexual. However, the tests do   
   > concentrate on recidivism, and have no great bearing on the   
   > percentages of homosexuals that are sex offenders. On this part I   
   > would agree with Herek. But the information does go to show more of   
   > the excesses of homosexuals.   
   >   
   > Dailey referred to some writings of the homosexuals, Jay and Young.   
   > The only thing Herek came up with on this was:   
   >   
   > This book, published nearly 30 years ago by a team of writer-   
   > activists, is not a scientific study. The authors' survey methodology   
   > is not reported in detail and, because it was a journalistic work,   
   > the survey was never subjected to scientific peer review.   
   >   
   > Herek makes no attempt to refute this significant statement:   
   >   
   > In The Gay Report, by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen   
   > Young, the authors report data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals   
   > surveyed had at some time had sex with boys sixteen to nineteen years   
   > of age or younger.   
   >   
   > Significantly, the other statements in Herek's paper indicate that he   
   > would not consider the above as child molesting, anyway, because the   
   > boys were past puberty. The fact that they may be below the age of   
   > consent apparently makes no difference to such people as Herek.   
   >   
   > Dailey referred to a study by W. D. Erickson, stating:   
   >   
   > A study of 229 convicted child molesters in Archives of Sexual   
   > Behavior found that "eighty-six percent of offenders against males   
   > described themselves as homosexual or bisexual."   
   >   
   > All that Herek could come up with on this was:   
   >   
   > However, no details are provided about how this information was   
   > ascertained, making it difficult to interpret. Nor did the authors   
   > report the number of homosexual versus bisexual offenders, a   
   > distinction that the Groth and Birnbaum study (described above)   
   > indicates is relevant.   
   >   
   > Herek would have us believe that male on male molestation is not   
   > homosexual molestation, merely because some molesters described   
      
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