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   > On 01/30/2017 05:59 PM, It's Not Too Late To Stop wrote:   
   >> 'Homosexual Pedophiles': A Clinical Term   
   >>   
   >> The fact is, however, that the terms "homosexual" and "pedophile" are   
   >> not mutually exclusive: they describe two intersecting types of   
   >> sexual attraction. Webster's Dictionary defines "homosexual" as   
   >> someone who is sexually attracted to persons of the same sex.   
   >> "Pedophile" is defined as "an adult who is sexually attracted to   
   >> young children." The former definition refers to the gender of the   
   >> desired sexual object, while the latter refers to the age of the   
   >> desired sexual object.   
   >>   
   >> A male "homosexual pedophile," then, is defined as someone who is   
   >> generally (but not exclusively, see below) sexually attracted to   
   >> boys, while a female "homosexual pedophile" is sexually attracted to   
   >> girls.   
   >>   
   >> Furthermore, Herek deceitfully leaves out the salient facts in the   
   >> Jenny study, which Dailey explains in Footnote 23 of his article:   
   >>   
   >> The Jenny study used this narrow profile despite the fact that the   
   >> study itself found that 22 percent of the perpetrators were of the   
   >> same sex as the victim. In these cases the molesters clearly engaged   
   >> in homosexual sexual molestation.   
   >>   
   >> Twenty-two percent of the molestations were homosexual, and using a   
   >> 2% figure for the percentage that homosexuals are of the total   
   >> population, this would be a ratio of 11 to 1. On a probability basis,   
   >> homosexuals are 11 times more likely to molest children than   
   >> heterosexuals. This fits in the low end of most valid statistics on   
   >> this problem. They generally range from 10 to 30 times. Also these   
   >> figures are very conservative for two reasons. By far, most of the   
   >> homosexual molesters are men abusing boys; and sexual abuse of boys   
   >> is under-reported. And, since there are both men and women in the 2%   
   >> homosexual category, using 2% is too high for the number of   
   >> homosexual men. On the under-reporting of sexual abuse by boys, the   
   >> Dailey article states:   
   >>   
   >> Dr. Robert Johnson, in Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, reports:   
   >> "The vast majority of cases of male sexual molestation is not   
   >> reported. As a result, these young men keep both the incidents and   
   >> their feelings to themselves."   
   >>   
   >> The Department of Justice report on child sexual exploitation   
   >> explains why the percentage of boy victims is underestimated:   
   >> "Adolescent boy victims are highly likely to deny certain types of   
   >> sexual activity. . . . They are embarrassed and ashamed of their   
   >> behavior and rightfully believe that society will not understand   
   >> their victimization. ... No matter what the investigator does, most   
   >> adolescent boys will deny they were victims."   
   >>   
   >> And certainly if the boy does not report the molestation, the   
   >> molester is not going to. Therefore, a very large number of the   
   >> homosexual molestations never come to light.   
   >>   
   >> On a Marshall, et al, study referred to by Dailey, Herek tries to   
   >> detract from its relevance by making such statements as:   
   >>   
   >> The offenders were not asked their sexual orientation (gay, straight,   
   >> bisexual) and the paper does not report any information about the   
   >> nature of the offenders' adult sexual relationships, or even if they   
   >> had any such relationships.   
   >>   
   >> First, the study clearly showed that it was of men who molested boys.   
   >> This in itself shows that they were homosexual pedophiles. Herek   
   >> tries to get away form this by his special definitions. The study   
   >> even went further and showed that the molesters were also "attracted   
   >> to men of all ages." Herek still tries to argue that even this has no   
   >> bearing on whether or not they were homosexuals. It certainly can get   
   >> ridiculous when you abandon common sense. Herek completely ignores   
   >> another Marshall study referred to by Dailey, where 30% of the male   
   >> sex offenders admitted to sex with adult males, as well as with the   
   >> boys they molested.   
   >>   
   >> Herek criticizes a study of Bickley & Beech referred to by Dailey.   
   >> The thrust of the criticism seems to be that there were other studies   
   >> that were somewhat different, and that the studies had little meaning   
   >> because they focused only on the sex of the victim, without   
   >> determining the sex of the offender. However, it has been well   
   >> established that the vast majority of child molesters are male, so   
   >> male molestation of boys would be homosexual. However, the tests do   
   >> concentrate on recidivism, and have no great bearing on the   
   >> percentages of homosexuals that are sex offenders. On this part I   
   >> would agree with Herek. But the information does go to show more of   
   >> the excesses of homosexuals.   
   >>   
   >> Dailey referred to some writings of the homosexuals, Jay and Young.   
   >> The only thing Herek came up with on this was:   
   >>   
   >> This book, published nearly 30 years ago by a team of writer-   
   >> activists, is not a scientific study. The authors' survey methodology   
   >> is not reported in detail and, because it was a journalistic work,   
   >> the survey was never subjected to scientific peer review.   
   >>   
   >> Herek makes no attempt to refute this significant statement:   
   >>   
   >> In The Gay Report, by homosexual researchers Karla Jay and Allen   
   >> Young, the authors report data showing that 73 percent of homosexuals   
   >> surveyed had at some time had sex with boys sixteen to nineteen years   
   >> of age or younger.   
   >>   
   >> Significantly, the other statements in Herek's paper indicate that he   
   >> would not consider the above as child molesting, anyway, because the   
   >> boys were past puberty. The fact that they may be below the age of   
   >> consent apparently makes no difference to such people as Herek.   
   >>   
   >> Dailey referred to a study by W. D. Erickson, stating:   
   >>   
   >> A study of 229 convicted child molesters in Archives of Sexual   
   >> Behavior found that "eighty-six percent of offenders against males   
   >> described themselves as homosexual or bisexual."   
   >>   
   >> All that Herek could come up with on this was:   
   >>   
   >> However, no details are provided about how this information was   
   >> ascertained, making it difficult to interpret. Nor did the authors   
   >> report the number of homosexual versus bisexual offenders, a   
      
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