On Jan 24, 12:04 am, Ted Dunning  wrote:   
   > > But I'm convincing, also thank to this thread, that these problems are   
   > > categorizable as pretended intelligence.   
   >   
   > You asked for the simplest possible programs.  Now you kvetch that   
   > they are too simple-minded.   
   >   
   > The point of AI is not necessarily to build an intelligent computer,   
   > but rather to write programs that solve problems that would normally   
   > be assumed to require intelligence.  The two goals are subtly   
   > different.   
   >   
   > Your disillusionment mirrors some of the progress in the field.  As   
   > many problems that were once thought to require general intelligence   
   > were shown to be soluble using cheap hacks, the definition of what   
   > requires intelligence or even what intelligence might be has shifted.   
   >   
   > > Probably my original question is badly posed: it seems impossible to   
   > > write a piece of simple code without the necessary abstractions.   
   >   
   > It is definitely hard to write a simple piece of code that is complex.   
   >   
      
   If you are looking for 'real' intelligence I suggest you look in the   
   cognitive science corner.   
   Take a look at SOAR, EPIC or ACT-R for example. They have some nice   
   'intelligent' models.   
      
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