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   Gernot Hoffmann to Aleks Jakulin   
   Re: The artificial sense of aesthetics   
   13 Nov 04 22:36:24   
   
   XPost: comp.ai.neural-nets, comp.graphics.algorithms   
   From: hoffmann@fho-emden.de   
      
   "Aleks Jakulin" <"a_jakulin@"@hotmail.com> wrote in message news   
   <4192d0d7$1@news.unimelb.edu.au>...   
   > Can computers have a sense of aesthetics? In all, what is aesthetics?   
   > I was wondering about this issue as an engineer. I knew about the   
   > golden section, as an aesthetically pleasant ratio between the   
   > rectangle's sides. I also knew about symmetry and how it pervades   
   > classical art. These notions are mathematical and can be programmed. A   
   > lot of the formal aesthetics of proportion and symmetry is perfectly   
   > formalizable.   
   >   
   > With the advent and resurrection of pen-based computing, wouldn't it   
   > be nice if the computer recognized the intents to draw straight lines   
   > in the approximate curvy attempts? Or, if the freehand stroke took a   
   > turn, an angle could be inferred by the on-the-run vectorizer? Or, if   
   > a line is placed approximately in parallel to another line of   
   > approximately equal length - wouldn't this imply that the two lines   
   > should be properly parallel and truly of equal length?   
   > ...   
   >   
   > Aleks   
   ...   
      
   Aleks,   
      
   I think your approach has really nothing to do with aesthetics.   
   But with artificial intelligence - find plausible interpretations for   
   input data, based on some assumptions like 'isolated line segments   
   should be connected' or 'nearly parallel lines should be parallel',   
   or 'nearly straight lines should be straight lines'.   
      
   'Informations-Aesthetik' was a major issue about 40 years ago, when   
   computer graphics started.   
   Key words for a Google Search: 'Max Bense', 'Rul Gunzenhaeuser'.   
   So much hope at this time ...   
      
   Thanks for your contribution anyway. I only want to say, that an   
   aesthetical interpretation (and modification) of input data is hardly   
   possible. Shouldn't sound impolite.   
      
   The German 'Ä','ä' was written by 'Ae','ae' here.   
      
   Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann   
      
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