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|    Anthony Bucci to All    |
|    Re: The secret of true AI    |
|    12 Sep 03 09:38:37    |
      From: abucci@cs.brandeis.edu              > If a huge company like Microsoft would concentrate on just one thing -       > building an AI system - they could do it.              Hmm, I find that doubtful.              > Microsoft is one of the few companies who would have the power to do it.              Do you lack trust in the academic establishment? I'm pretty sure the key       insights that lead to AI, whenever it happens, will come from       universities, not from companies.              > Birds and planes rely on the aerodynamic principle of lift.       > It was important to discover the aerodynamics principles, and       > with the power of oil engines we achieved the ability to fly.       > In AI, it is important to discover the fundamental principles, and       > with the power of computers, networks and the internet,       > systems will probably achieve the ability to "think".              I detect a common misunderstanding here. The principles of lift were       known well before the Wright brothers. There were gliders, for instance.       Further, thrust was not the problem either -- people had tried combustion       engines on flying machines. The key insight the Wright brothers added was       how to control the craft once it was flying. That's where everyone else       failed and they succeeded.              This was a scaling problem -- how to maintain control over the craft as       its weight and airspeed increased. The crucial invention was the aileron.       The reason is, it permitted a heavy, fast-moving craft to be controllable       by a relatively weak and light human being. Gliders were controlled by       the human operator shifting their weight left and right to turn. With a       heavy fast-moving craft with high frictional forces, shifting weight no       longer sufficed for turning. That's where the aileron was a brilliant       addition. By bending the wing, the control power scaled with the speed of       the craft, exactly as you need it to for controlled flight.              The analogy with AI is interesting. You seem to assert it was the       powerful engine which permitted flight. Similarly, people have thought       that scaling computers to very large sizes would permit AI. Some people       even think there will be a magical transition from not-smart to smart,       simply because of scale! However, I feel in both cases there is       fundamental misunderstanding and error in that point of view. Principles       of lift were already known before the Wrights, people had already tried       combustion engines to make airplanes, and they failed. Similarly, we have       extremely large computers, but they are not smart. It seems pretty clear       that if we scale the computers even larger, they still will not be smart.              Couldn't it be we lack a principle of control in our computers? The       computational equivalent of the aileron? It's possible we're in the same       state the Wrights were in. We have powerful computers, we have a lot of       know-how, but we're lacking something basic about how to control them.              Anthony              [ comp.ai is moderated. To submit, just post and be patient, or if ]       [ that fails mail your article to |
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