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|    Re: Ants & AI ?    |
|    11 Jan 06 00:34:55    |
      From: nospam@noisp.not              news@absamail.co.za a ecrit :              >There was this TV-show about spiders, claiming remarable 'intelligence'       >[planning & deception] from these minute spiders.       >       >And we're aware of the debate about brain-size re. IQ.       >       >I've got good close-up sight, to the extent of easily seeing the       >'lobster barbs' on cockroaches legs. And when I move closer to       >watch the small ants, they stop and raise their 'antlers'. Apparently       >they 'smell' by breath.       >       >When I wanted to move one, I wet my finger and 'scooped' it up.       >When it got off of my wet finger, its 'antlers' were stuck together,       >so it took several seconds, with it's front legs un-sticking them.       >Then it continued grooming them, just like a dog.       >       >When I put a cockroach corpse just off their path, they smell/sense       >it and the first one veers of 'in surprise' and 'stops to THINK' before       >approaching. The next one approaches immediately, after       >communicating with the first one.       >       >Yes I know the chemical scent simplistic explanation.       >       >But I can't see much difference between their behaviour and       >say lions, despite the vast difference in brain size.       >       >The neuron/synapsis ...etc theory seems not to explain this.       >       >Comments ?       >       >== Chris Glur.       >              Hello,              My point of view on this is that ants have developped complementary       mecanisms to balance the size of their brain. When I say "ants have       developped complementary mecanisms", I mean "evolution and natural       selection brought complementary mecanisms". That's to say pheromons.       Ants are nothing but random wanderers releasing pheromon on their way,       and tending to follow previously released pheromon traces. The more a       track is used, the more "pheromoned" it will be, until pheromon       evaporates. And ants release more pheromon when carrying food (because       their abdomen is closer to the ground), so tracks leading to food are       more pheromned than others.              So I don't think the size of the brain of ants characterises their       intelligence, because they developped other mecanisms than neural       mecanisms to find food, to protect themselves, to survive. I don't even       think we can compare a lion and an ant, because a lion alone can survive       in its environnement, by hunting, etc. An ant might die if it remains       alone. An ant alone won't seem to have an intelligent behavior other       than random wandering, whereas a lion will try to have intelligent       strategies when hunting (hiding, walking silently). And furthermore,       considering another scale, an ant colony will show (if you observe it       long enough) organization (well, "auto-organization" in fact) from       individual behaviors not controled by any supererior entity. Colony       intelligent behavior /emerges/ from individual non intelligent behaviors.              Moreover, your interpretation, saying that ants "think", or are       "surprised", is your human intuitive interpretation of what you see, but       this might not be the truth.              Lions behavior are, in my opinion very different from ants behavior. I       would naivly ants behavior is more automated than lions behavior.              Regis                     [ comp.ai is moderated. To submit, just post and be patient, or if ]       [ that fails mail your article to |
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