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|    Dmitry A. Kazakov to Ethan Seng    |
|    Re: membership functions of independent     |
|    26 Oct 04 11:23:15    |
      From: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de              On 25 Oct 2004 10:38:28 -0700, Ethan Seng wrote:              > Thank you for your reply. Previously, you had stated that - given my       > problem statement - 'the goal is then approximate y(t) from the class       > of exponent functions keeping parameters A and b as much certain as       > possible, i.e. to find A and b with the membership functions as close       > to singletons as possible. However, here you will get nothing richer       > than just intervals: A=[Amin, Amax], b=[bmin, bmax].' Do you mind       > explaining why it will only be possible to obtain rectangular       > membership functions?              Without any additional assumptions, one cannot differentiate the solution       set finer than crisp.              For A and b to be intervals means: if I take any A from [Amin, Amax], then       for any xi I can find some b in [bmin, bmax], such that yi=A*exp(b*xi). If       neither yi nor xi are fuzzy, then there is nothing beyond that. Either yi       is equal to A*exp(b*xi) or not. So either A and b are in the solution set       or out. This is why it is rectangular (exp is monotonic and contiguous, so       the solution set cannot be disjoint, you also said that A and b are       independent, so only intervals).              You have to reformulate it, if you feel that there should be something       else. The most obvious way is to move from interpolation (all data are       exact) to approximation (the data are uncertain). All regression methods       follow this way. But this would require additional assumptions. For       example, that (xi, yi) are realizations of a stochastic/fuzzy process, that       error risk is squared etc.              --       Regards,       Dmitry A. Kazakov       http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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