XPost: alt.os.development   
   From: Ekrem.Saban@utanet.at   
      
   > The practician's approach is - "if this is done that way, that this is   
   > _for a   
   > reason_, possibly I do not know this reason, but this works and thus is   
   > fine,   
   > the mere fact of the thing being working proves that the authors are not   
   > idiots. I could possibly spend some time to discover the exact reason and   
   > possible other ways, but sorry, I have the direct tasks to solve, and thus   
   > will   
   > just plain use the feature".   
   >   
   :D :D :D :D   
      
   Welcome to Austria, Maxim!!! You will enjoy your stay, and never want to go   
   back. Perhaps, you are already here!   
      
   This is the attitude here toward anything new among the majority of people:   
   "If this is done that way, this is *for a reason*". It is an attitude that   
   can be adopted, but we would have been still in the stone age if we would   
   REALLY think like this, wouldn't we?   
      
   Something about software development is going wrong, Maxim! And it is   
   neither the proudness, nor the intellectual properties of mine or others   
   writing about that. I will send you some information on this and I would   
   advice it to everybody who read this. But are we not alone here? We have   
   left the subject and speaking about other things, or is this the answer to   
   the FLOS? ;))   
      
   If you are 100% right, there would be NO graphical interface, as all   
   procedural approaches in the beginning 1970s failed, leading to the OOD the   
   first time in software history! You will never find a proper, working   
   solution without the OOD paradigm to the GUI, or do you know about another   
   working choice for it?   
      
   And: if you do split the world in a group of haughty intellectuals and the   
   rest of people doing business using their common sense, I think this is the   
   point where you start to look biased at the world of software development.   
   It should be possible to remain cool and analyse the ideas.   
      
   Have you ever programmed with J2EE? Did you have practice with CORBA or   
   other kinds of interfaces (componentry)? By the way, I am 44, working for   
   several hardware and software companies. I am now a research associate and   
   making research projects at the Vienna University of Technology.   
      
   http://www.netobjectives.com/resources/rs_articles_ours.htm   
   http://www.eurescom.de/~public-webspace/P900-series/P907/differen.htm   
      
   I will send you a link I couldn't find, but you will see that it is worth to   
   read.   
      
   If you want to, we can continue this discussion by email, as I think that   
   nobody else is following our discussion FAR away of the FLOS question.   
      
   Cordially,   
   E. SABAN   
      
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