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|    Dmitry A. Kazakov to Hadi Asghari    |
|    Re: Beginners question    |
|    04 Jun 06 12:36:25    |
      From: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de              On 3 Jun 2006 04:47:35 -0700, Hadi Asghari wrote:              > Thanks for your answer. I have actually studied the problem domain for       > some time and have a relatively good understanding of it, but my       > problems are related to applying that knowledge in fuzzy. Finding the       > inputs and writing the rules is easy, but I have no clue on optimizing       > the membership functions and on choosing the correct activation       > methods, etc.              In my view, the activation function, and/or operators and defuzzification       are determined by the problem space. When you take PROD and SUM you       silently assume that the truth values behave as probabilities of       independent events. Only the problem space may tell if they indeed are.              > I am using a trial and error approach, so more       > specifically, is there some 'general recommendation' in ranking       > problems?              IMO ranking could be mapped to truth values. I would try to formulate it as       u(A|x) < u(B|x), where u is the measure you took (in your case it is       probability, because you have chosen PROD and SUM). A and B are things you       compare, x is the condition (the observed state and actions you plant to       undertake.) An alternative approach is. If there is some natural ranking in       your domain, though difficult to evaluate, then you could define linguistic       variables on that rank. Comparing sets over linguistic variables should       again give you truth values.              However, as you said, it works rather unsatisfactory, so I'd assume that       the probabilistic model is inadequate in your case. This is why I believe       you should step back and learn more about the domain. You should adequately       model it, to make things working.              --       Regards,       Dmitry A. Kazakov       http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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