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   Message 811 of 1,275   
   Joe Pfeiffer to Bill Silvert   
   Re: What is a fuzzy rule?   
   07 Aug 09 15:07:26   
   
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   From: pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu   
      
   Bill Silvert  writes:   
      
   > I have been working with decision support tools based on fuzzy logic   
   > for many years, but recently I have been told by several   
   > mathematicians that the rules I am using have nothing to do with fuzzy   
   > logic. I am baffled by this and hope that someone can tell me whether   
   > there has been a drastic divergence in the definition of fuzzy   
   > concepts and what these people are thinking of.   
   >   
   > The kinds of rules I am using are like those in standard demos, such   
   > as for buying a house:   
   > IF the house is close to work AND not too expensive THEN ...   
   > where one can obtain crisp rules by defining "close to work" and "too   
   > expensive" in terms of precise distances and prices, but in practical   
   > terms these are fuzzy concepts and thus a house that is a little too   
   > far from work might be acceptable if the price is very low (the actual   
   > rules under debate deal with issues such as nutrient levels). What is   
   > the basis for saying that this kind of rule has nothing to do with   
   > fuzzy logic?   
      
   Your description doesn't quite give me a clear idea of how your rules   
   work -- when you say you can obtain crisp rules by defining "close to   
   work" it sounds like you're using a boolean value.  But then your   
   description of "too far OK if cheap enough" it goes back to sounding   
   fuzzy.   
      
   So...  if your idea of "close to work" has a value of 0 at 1.5 miles   
   away or farther, and a value of 1 at .5 miles away or closer, and is   
   something in between (for instance, a linear function) in between the   
   two distances, you've got a fuzzy rule and I've got no idea what the   
   mathemeticians are talking about.   
      
   If your idea of "close to work" is 0 at distances beyond one mile, and 1   
   for distances at or within one mile, it's crisp.   
   --   
   Klingon programs don't have parameters.  They have arguments and win   
   them (Walter Bushell)   
      
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