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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about th    |
|    15 Jun 24 18:30:59    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 6/15/2024 6:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 6/15/24 5:56 PM, olcott wrote:       >> On 6/15/2024 11:33 AM, Richard Damon wrote:       >>> On 6/15/24 12:22 PM, olcott wrote:       >>>> On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       >>>> > On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:       >>>> >>       >>>> >> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes       >>>> >> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to       >>>> >> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by       >>>> >> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the       >>>> >> behavior of the directly executed D(D)       >>>> >>       >>>> >       >>>> > Why? I don't claim it can.       >>>>       >>>> The first six steps of this mapping are when instructions       >>>> at the machine address range of [00000cfc] to [00000d06]       >>>> are simulated/executed.       >>>>       >>>> After that the behavior of D correctly simulated by H diverges       >>>> from the behavior of D(D) because the call to H(D,D) by D       >>>> correctly simulated by H cannot possibly return to D.       >>>       >>> Nope, the steps of D correctly simulated by H will EXACTLY match the       >>> steps of D directly executed, until H just gives up and guesses.       >>>       >>       >> When we can see that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly       >> reach its simulated final state at machine address [00000d1d]       >> after one recursive simulation and the same applies for 2,3,...N       >> recursive simulations then we can abort the simulated input and       >> correctly report that D correctly simulated by H DOES NOT HALT.       >       > Nope. Because an aborted simulation doesn't say anything about Halting,       >              It is the mathematical induction that says this.              --       Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius       hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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