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   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about th   
   15 Jun 24 18:30:59   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 6/15/2024 6:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 6/15/24 5:56 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 6/15/2024 11:33 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 6/15/24 12:22 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>  > On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>  >>   
   >>>>  >> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes   
   >>>>  >> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to   
   >>>>  >> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by   
   >>>>  >> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the   
   >>>>  >> behavior of the directly executed D(D)   
   >>>>  >>   
   >>>>  >   
   >>>>  > Why? I don't claim it can.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The first six steps of this mapping are when instructions   
   >>>> at the machine address range of [00000cfc] to [00000d06]   
   >>>> are simulated/executed.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> After that the behavior of D correctly simulated by H diverges   
   >>>> from the behavior of D(D) because the call to H(D,D) by D   
   >>>> correctly simulated by H cannot possibly return to D.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope, the steps of D correctly simulated by H will EXACTLY match the   
   >>> steps of D directly executed, until H just gives up and guesses.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> When we can see that D correctly simulated by H cannot possibly   
   >> reach its simulated final state at machine address [00000d1d]   
   >> after one recursive simulation and the same applies for 2,3,...N   
   >> recursive simulations then we can abort the simulated input and   
   >> correctly report that D correctly simulated by H DOES NOT HALT.   
   >   
   > Nope. Because an aborted simulation doesn't say anything about Halting,   
   >   
      
   It is the mathematical induction that says this.   
      
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