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   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is Cor   
   13 Jul 24 11:19:04   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/13/2024 11:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 7/13/24 11:34 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 7/13/2024 10:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 7/13/24 11:15 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> In other words when you are very hungry you have the   
   >>>> free will to decide that you are not hungry at all   
   >>>> and never eat anything ever again with no ill effects   
   >>>> to your health what-so-ever.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Just shows that though I have free will, I am also in a Universe with   
   >>> a lot of determinism.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Try and use this free will to make a square circle.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope, just shows you don't know what you are talking about and need   
   >>> to switch to Red Herring because you lost the argument.   
   >>>   
   >>> Face it, all you have proved is that you are nothing but a pathetic   
   >>> ignorant pathological lying idiot.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> After HHH has already aborted its simulation of DDD   
   >>>>>> and returns to the DDD that called it is not the same   
   >>>>>> behavior as DDD simulated by HHH that must be aborted.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Right, and the question is about the behavior of DDD,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> the input finite string not an external process that HHH   
   >>>> has no access to.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Right, but the program it represents, and the question is about IS.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> HHH cannot be correctly required to report on the behavior   
   >> of an external process that it has no access to.   
   >>   
   >   
   > But it has access to the complete representation of it.   
   >   
      
   In other words you are still hungry AFTER you filled   
   yourself with food BECAUSE you are the same person   
   thus the change in process state DOES NOT MATTER.   
      
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