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   Message 57,332 of 59,235   
   olcott to Fred. Zwarts   
   Re: Hypothetical possibilities   
   20 Jul 24 15:02:01   
   
   XPost: comp.theory   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/20/2024 2:36 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:   
   > Op 20.jul.2024 om 21:09 schreef olcott:   
   >> On 7/20/2024 2:00 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:   
   >>> Op 20.jul.2024 om 17:28 schreef olcott:   
   >>>> void DDD()   
   >>>> {   
   >>>>    HHH(DDD);   
   >>>> }   
   >>>>   
   >>>> int main()   
   >>>> {   
   >>>>    DDD();   
   >>>> }   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (a) Termination Analyzers / Partial Halt Deciders must halt   
   >>>> this is a design requirement.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (b) Every simulating termination analyzer HHH either   
   >>>> aborts the simulation of its input or not.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> (c) Within the hypothetical case where HHH does not abort   
   >>>> the simulation of its input {HHH, emulated DDD and executed DDD}   
   >>>> never stop running.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This violates the design requirement of (a) therefore HHH must   
   >>>> abort the simulation of its input.   
   >>>   
   >>> And when it aborts, the simulation is incorrect. When HHH aborts and   
   >>> halts, it is not needed to abort its simulation, because it will halt   
   >>> of its own.   
   >>   
   >> So you are trying to get away with saying that no HHH   
   >> ever needs to abort the simulation of its input and HHH   
   >> will stop running?   
   >>   
   >   
   > No, you try to get away with saying that a HHH that is coded to abort   
   > and halt, will never stop running, only because you are dreaming of   
   > *another* HHH that does not abort.   
   >   
      
   *You know that I didn't say anything like that*   
      
   Unless I refer to the infinite set of every possible   
   HHH my reviewers try to get away with saying that I am   
   referring to the wrong HHH.   
      
   void DDD()   
   {   
      HHH(DDD);   
      return;   
   }   
      
   DDD correctly simulated by pure function HHH cannot   
   possibly reach its own return instruction.   
      
      
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