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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: HHH(DDD) computes the mapping from i    |
|    17 Nov 24 22:04:39    |
   
   XPost: comp.theory   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/17/2024 9:19 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 11/17/24 9:47 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 11/17/2024 8:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 11/17/24 8:46 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/17/2024 4:04 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/17/24 4:30 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 11/17/2024 2:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 11/17/24 1:36 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> void DDD()   
   >>>>>>>> {   
   >>>>>>>> HHH(DDD);   
   >>>>>>>> return;   
   >>>>>>>> }   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> _DDD()   
   >>>>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping   
   >>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping   
   >>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD   
   >>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)   
   >>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04   
   >>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp   
   >>>>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret   
   >>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> DDD emulated by any encoding of HHH that emulates N   
   >>>>>>>> to infinity number of steps of DDD cannot possibly   
   >>>>>>>> reach its "return" instruction final halt state.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> This applies to every DDD emulated by any HHH no   
   >>>>>>>> matter the recursive depth of emulation. Thus it is   
   >>>>>>>> a verified fact that the input to HHH never halts.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> I will also add, that since you have dropped your requirements on   
   >>>>>>> HHH (or are seeming to try to divorse yourself from previous   
   >>>>>>> assumptions) there are MANY HHH that can complete the emulation,   
   >>>>>>> they just fail to be "pure functions".   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The damned liar despicably dishonest attempt to get away   
   >>>>>> with changing the subject away from DDD reaching its final   
   >>>>>> halt state.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Which is just what YOU are doing, as "Halting" and what a "Program"   
   >>>>> is are DEFINED, and you can't change it.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> YET ANOTHER STUPID LIE.   
   >>>> A SMART LIAR WOULD NEVER SAY THAT I MEANT   
   >>>> PROGRAM WHEN I ALWAYS SPECIFIED A C FUNCTION.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> But then you can talk about "emulation" or x86 semantics, as both of   
   >>> those are operations done on PROGRAMS.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> No stupid I provided a published paper that includes the   
   >> termination analysis of C functions.   
   >   
   > Look again at what they process. C functions that include all the   
   > functions they call.   
   >   
      
   You stupidly claimed termination analysis is only done   
   on programs. I proved that you were stupidly wrong on   
   pages 24-27 of the PDF of this paper.   
      
   Automated Termination Analysis of C Programs   
   https://publications.rwth-aachen.de/record/972440/files/972440.pdf   
      
      
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