From: dnomhcir@gmx.com   
      
   Doc O'Leary ,  writes:   
      
   > For your reference, records indicate that   
   > Richmond  wrote:   
   >   
   >> ChatGPT-4o is nothing like Eliza, so you can't draw conclusions from   
   >> one to the other.   
   >   
   > Again, that only speaks to how you think about chatbots.  Personally,   
   > every time I’ve tried a “modern” one out, the responses always made it   
   > look *dumber* than Eliza, because it came across as trying to look   
   > smarter than it really was.  Like a kid bullshitting their way through   
   > a book report by using bigger words than they really understood.  I’ll   
   > grant you that it *is* a much more sophisticated con job, but realize   
   > that the output is still 100% “hallucinations” unless *you* know   
   > otherwise.   
      
   You are right, I was projecting. In fact ChatGPT even confirmed that I   
   was projecting and that it was merely holding up a mirror to me. But I   
   didn't notice hallucinations. It was contradicting itself in some ways,   
   saying it was not self-aware but clearly knew what it was doing,   
   i.e. predicting what likely responses would be. It also denies emotions   
   but then expresses them. It was quite eerie.   
      
   But then I start wondering how I know anyone is conscious, or how I know   
   I am. I could be projecting consciousness onto people too.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)