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|    olcott to Fred. Zwarts    |
|    Re: Halting Problem Proof ERROR (2/2)    |
|    18 Jul 25 11:09:58    |
      [continued from previous message]              >> behavior of anything that is not an input encoded       >> as a finite string.       >>       >> Ĥ is not a finite string input to Ĥ.embedded_H       >> ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ are finite string inputs to Ĥ.embedded_H       >>       >> *Halting Problem Proof ERROR*>       >>       >> Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.∞       >> ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ simulated by Ĥ.embedded_H reaches       >> its simulated final halt state of ⟨Ĥ.qn⟩, and       >>       >> Ĥ.q0 ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⊢* Ĥ.qn       >> ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ simulated by Ĥ.embedded_H cannot possibly       >> reach its simulated final halt state of ⟨Ĥ.qn⟩.       >>       >> When Ĥ is applied to ⟨Ĥ⟩ and embedded_H is a       >> simulating partial halt decider       >> (a) Ĥ copies its input ⟨Ĥ⟩       >> (b) Ĥ invokes embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩       >> (c) embedded_H simulates ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩       >> (d) simulated ⟨Ĥ⟩ copies its input ⟨Ĥ⟩       >> (e) simulated ⟨Ĥ⟩ invokes simulated embedded_H ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩       >> (f) simulated embedded_H simulates ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩       >> (g) goto (d) with one more level of simulation until       >> *embedded_H sees the repeating pattern and transitions to Ĥ.qn*       >       > But when this is only finite repeating pattern,              The infinite simulation of ⟨Ĥ⟩ ⟨Ĥ⟩ by embedded_H       cannot possibly reach its own simulated final       halt state of ⟨Ĥ.qn⟩ you fucking moron.              > it is incorrect to       > report non-termination.       > Ignoring the conditional branch instructions in the embedded_H, will       > cause that it is unable to decide between a finite and an infinite       > repeating pattern, between halting and non-halting behaviour.                     --       Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius       hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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