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|    wij to olcott    |
|    Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their ow    |
|    20 Jul 25 03:28:48    |
      From: wyniijj5@gmail.com              On Sat, 2025-07-19 at 14:19 -0500, olcott wrote:       > On 7/19/2025 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       > > On 7/19/25 10:42 AM, olcott wrote:       > > > On 7/18/2025 3:49 AM, joes wrote:       > > >        > > > > That is wrong. It is, as you say, very obvious that HHH cannot simulate       > > > > DDD past the call to HHH. You just draw the wrong conclusion from it.       > > > > (Aside: what "seems" to you will convince no one. You can just call       > > > > everybody dishonest. Also, they are not "your reviewers".)       > > > >        > > >        > > > For the purposes of this discussion this is the       > > > 100% complete definition of HHH. It is the exact       > > > same one that I give to all the chat bots.       > > >        > > > Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until       > > > it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When       > > > HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation       > > > and returns 0.       > >        > > So, the only HHH that meets your definition is the HHH that never        > > detects the pattern and aborts, and thus never returns.       > >        >        > All of the Chat bots conclude that HHH(DDD) is correct       > to reject its input as non-halting because this input       > specified recursive simulation. They figure this out       > on their own without any prompting.       >        > https://chatgpt.com/share/687aa4c2-b814-8011-9e7d-b85c03b291eb              It is still nothing to do with the Halting Problem proof (Because it is POOH)              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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