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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    Four Chatbots figure out on their own wi    |
|    19 Jul 25 14:19:24    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 7/19/2025 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 7/19/25 10:42 AM, olcott wrote:       >> On 7/18/2025 3:49 AM, joes wrote:       >>       >>> That is wrong. It is, as you say, very obvious that HHH cannot simulate       >>> DDD past the call to HHH. You just draw the wrong conclusion from it.       >>> (Aside: what "seems" to you will convince no one. You can just call       >>> everybody dishonest. Also, they are not "your reviewers".)       >>>       >>       >> For the purposes of this discussion this is the       >> 100% complete definition of HHH. It is the exact       >> same one that I give to all the chat bots.       >>       >> Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until       >> it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When       >> HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation       >> and returns 0.       >       > So, the only HHH that meets your definition is the HHH that never       > detects the pattern and aborts, and thus never returns.       >              All of the Chat bots conclude that HHH(DDD) is correct       to reject its input as non-halting because this input       specified recursive simulation. They figure this out       on their own without any prompting.              https://chatgpt.com/share/687aa4c2-b814-8011-9e7d-b85c03b291eb              --       Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius       hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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