From: wyniijj5@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 2025-07-19 at 14:47 -0500, olcott wrote:   
   > On 7/19/2025 2:29 PM, wij wrote:   
   > > On Sat, 2025-07-19 at 14:19 -0500, olcott wrote:   
   > > > On 7/19/2025 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > > > > On 7/19/25 10:42 AM, olcott wrote:   
   > > > > > On 7/18/2025 3:49 AM, joes wrote:   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > > That is wrong. It is, as you say, very obvious that HHH cannot   
   simulate   
   > > > > > > DDD past the call to HHH. You just draw the wrong conclusion from   
   it.   
   > > > > > > (Aside: what "seems" to you will convince no one. You can just call   
   > > > > > > everybody dishonest. Also, they are not "your reviewers".)   
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > For the purposes of this discussion this is the   
   > > > > > 100% complete definition of HHH. It is the exact   
   > > > > > same one that I give to all the chat bots.   
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until   
   > > > > > it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When   
   > > > > > HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation   
   > > > > > and returns 0.   
   > > > >    
   > > > > So, the only HHH that meets your definition is the HHH that never   
   > > > > detects the pattern and aborts, and thus never returns.   
   > > > >    
   > > >    
   > > > All of the Chat bots conclude that HHH(DDD) is correct   
   > > > to reject its input as non-halting because this input   
   > > > specified recursive simulation. They figure this out   
   > > > on their own without any prompting.   
   > > >    
   > > > https://chatgpt.com/share/687aa4c2-b814-8011-9e7d-b85c03b291eb   
   > >    
   > > It is still nothing to do with the Halting Problem proof (Because it is   
   POOH)   
   > >    
   >    
   > It is a key element of my refutation of this proof   
   > because HHH also correctly determines that HHH(DD)==0.   
   >    
   > DD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly ever   
   > reach past its first statement because it specifies   
   > recursive simulation.   
   >    
   > int DD()   
   > {   
   >    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
   >    if (Halt_Status)   
   >      HERE: goto HERE;   
   >    return Halt_Status;   
   > }   
   >    
      
   Boring. HHH cannot do what the HP says.   
      
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