Message 57,556 of 59,235   
   Richard Damon to olcott   
   Re: Respect [was: The halting problem as   
   19 Jul 25 22:12:33   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: richard@damon-family.org   
      
   On 7/19/25 5:18 PM, olcott wrote:   
   > On 7/19/2025 4:00 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:   
   >> Mike Terry wrote:   
   >>   
   >> [ .... ]   
   >>   
   >>> ps. learn to post more respectfully.   
   >>   
   >> You've hit the nail on the head, there. Peter Olcott doesn't show   
   >> respect here for anybody. Because of this he isn't shown any respect   
   >> back - he hasn't earned any. I don't think he understands the concept   
   >> of respect any more than he understands the concept of truth.   
   >>   
   >> If he were to show repect, he'd repect knowledge, truth, and learning,   
   >> and strive to acquire these qualities. Instead he displays contempt for   
   >> them. This is a large part of what makes him a crank. It is   
   >> a large part of what makes it such a waste of time trying to correct   
   >> him, something that you've sensibly given up.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Now that chat bots have proven that they understand   
   > what I am saying I can rephrase my words to be more   
   > clear.   
   >   
      
   They have done no such thing, because they can't   
      
   Since yoiu feed them lies, all you have done is shown that you think   
   lies are valid logic.   
      
   > I have been rude because I cannot interpret the   
   > rebuttal to this statement as anything besides   
   > a despicable lie for the sole purpose of sadistic   
   > pleasure of gaslighting:   
      
   Because you are just too stupid.   
      
   How is the "pattern" that HHH detects a non-halting pattern, when   
   non-halting is DEFINED by the behavior of the directly executed machine,   
   and the pattern you are thinking of exists in the execution of the DDD   
   that halts because it was built on the same HHH you claim is correct to   
   return 0,   
      
   Thus, your claim *IS* just a lie, and you shows your ignorance by saying   
   you can't undetstand how it is one.   
      
   >   
   >    
   > typedef void (*ptr)();   
   > int HHH(ptr P);   
   >   
   > void DDD()   
   > {   
   > HHH(DDD);   
   > return;   
   > }   
   >   
   > int main()   
   > {   
   > HHH(DDD);   
   > DDD();   
   > }   
   >   
   > Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until   
   > it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When   
   > HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation   
   > and returns 0.   
   >    
   >   
   > Every chatbot figures out on its own that HHH   
   > correctly rejects DDD as non-terminating because   
   > the input to HHH(DDD) specifies recursive simulation.   
   >   
      
   BECAUSE YOU LIE TO THEM, and a prime training parameter is to give an   
   answer the user is apt to like, and thus will tend to just accept lies   
   and errors provided.   
      
   All you are doing is showing you don't understand how Artificiial   
   Intelegence actualy works, showing your Natural Stupidity.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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