XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: richard@damon-family.org   
      
   On 7/19/25 3:19 PM, olcott wrote:   
   > On 7/19/2025 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >> On 7/19/25 10:42 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>> On 7/18/2025 3:49 AM, joes wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> That is wrong. It is, as you say, very obvious that HHH cannot simulate   
   >>>> DDD past the call to HHH. You just draw the wrong conclusion from it.   
   >>>> (Aside: what "seems" to you will convince no one. You can just call   
   >>>> everybody dishonest. Also, they are not "your reviewers".)   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> For the purposes of this discussion this is the   
   >>> 100% complete definition of HHH. It is the exact   
   >>> same one that I give to all the chat bots.   
   >>>   
   >>> Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until   
   >>> it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When   
   >>> HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation   
   >>> and returns 0.   
   >>   
   >> So, the only HHH that meets your definition is the HHH that never   
   >> detects the pattern and aborts, and thus never returns.   
   >>   
   >   
   > All of the Chat bots conclude that HHH(DDD) is correct   
   > to reject its input as non-halting because this input   
   > specified recursive simulation. They figure this out   
   > on their own without any prompting.   
   >   
   > https://chatgpt.com/share/687aa4c2-b814-8011-9e7d-b85c03b291eb   
   >   
      
   And all the chat bots were lied to, just showing that you don't   
   understand that you need to use truth when making an argument.   
      
   Sorry, all you are doing is proving you are just a Naturally Stupid   
   Pathological Liar.   
      
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