XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/20/2025 2:57 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:   
   > Op 19.jul.2025 om 21:19 schreef olcott:   
   >> On 7/19/2025 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 7/19/25 10:42 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 7/18/2025 3:49 AM, joes wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> That is wrong. It is, as you say, very obvious that HHH cannot   
   >>>>> simulate   
   >>>>> DDD past the call to HHH. You just draw the wrong conclusion from it.   
   >>>>> (Aside: what "seems" to you will convince no one. You can just call   
   >>>>> everybody dishonest. Also, they are not "your reviewers".)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> For the purposes of this discussion this is the   
   >>>> 100% complete definition of HHH. It is the exact   
   >>>> same one that I give to all the chat bots.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until   
   >>>> it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When   
   >>>> HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation   
   >>>> and returns 0.   
   >>>   
   >>> So, the only HHH that meets your definition is the HHH that never   
   >>> detects the pattern and aborts, and thus never returns.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> All of the Chat bots conclude that HHH(DDD) is correct   
   >> to reject its input as non-halting because this input   
   >> specified recursive simulation. They figure this out   
   >> on their own without any prompting.   
   >>   
   >> https://chatgpt.com/share/687aa4c2-b814-8011-9e7d-b85c03b291eb   
   >>   
   >   
   > I just read a news item where an AI told that bread with shit is a nice   
   > desert. So, we know what a proof by AI means.   
      
   That would be a detectable error.   
      
   There is no detectable error in the above link   
   pertaining to the correct return value of HHH(DDD).   
      
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