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|    olcott to Mikko    |
|    Re: The halting problem as defined is a     |
|    22 Jul 25 08:56:36    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 7/22/2025 5:51 AM, Mikko wrote:       > On 2025-07-21 14:07:27 +0000, olcott said:       >       >> On 7/21/2025 4:38 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>> On 2025-07-20 15:04:34 +0000, olcott said:       >>>       >>>> On 7/20/2025 3:46 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>>>> On 2025-07-19 14:59:41 +0000, olcott said:       >>>>>       >>>>>> On 7/19/2025 4:02 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>>>>>> On 2025-07-18 22:11:50 +0000, Mr Flibble said:       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:01:31 -0500, olcott wrote:       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Claude.ai agrees that the halting problem as defined is a category       >>>>>>>>> error.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> https://claude.ai/share/0b784d2a-447e-441f-b3f0-a204fa17135a       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> This can only be directly seen within my notion of a simulating       >>>>>>>>> halt       >>>>>>>>> decider. I used the Linz proof as my basis.       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Sorrowfully Peter Linz passed away 2 days less than one year       >>>>>>>>> ago on my       >>>>>>>>> Mom's birthday July 19, 2024.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> I was the first to state that the halting problem as defined is       >>>>>>>> a category       >>>>>>>> error and I stated it in this forum.       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>> Indeed you stated that but failed to identify the actual error. You       >>>>>>> did not say which word in the problem statement is wrong or what is       >>>>>>> the wrong category or what would be the right one.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> I conclusively proved the actual category error yet       >>>>>> people that are only interested in rebuttal want no       >>>>>> part of any proof that I am correct.       >>>>>       >>>>> Is it the same error as Flibble found?       >>>>       >>>> Flibble's category error is stated abstractly.       >>>> My version is stated concretely.       >>>       >>> Could you post a pointer to your version?       >>       >> The category error is a type mismatch error where       >> a Turing Machine decider is required to report on       >> the behavior of a directly executed machine yet       >> cannot take a directly executed machine as an input.       >       > That is not a category error. A category error is a word or phrase       > of some category in a context that requires a word or phrase of a       > different category.       >              The category error is the mistake of assuming that       a directly executing Turing machine is in the category       of input to a Turing machine halt decider.              The category error is typically stated indirectly by       requiring a Turing machine based halt decider to report       on the behavior of a directly executed Turing machine.              It can be easily corrected by changing the requirement       to report on the behavior that its finite string input       specifies.              *I have conclusively proven that these behaviors diverge*       That people cannot understand this proof does not mean that       it is not a proof.              --       Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius       hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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