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   Message 57,623 of 59,235   
   olcott to Mikko   
   Re: The halting problem as defined is a    
   22 Jul 25 08:56:36   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/22/2025 5:51 AM, Mikko wrote:   
   > On 2025-07-21 14:07:27 +0000, olcott said:   
   >   
   >> On 7/21/2025 4:38 AM, Mikko wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-07-20 15:04:34 +0000, olcott said:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On 7/20/2025 3:46 AM, Mikko wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-07-19 14:59:41 +0000, olcott said:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On 7/19/2025 4:02 AM, Mikko wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 2025-07-18 22:11:50 +0000, Mr Flibble said:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 13:01:31 -0500, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Claude.ai agrees that the halting problem as defined is a category   
   >>>>>>>>> error.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> https://claude.ai/share/0b784d2a-447e-441f-b3f0-a204fa17135a   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> This can only be directly seen within my notion of a simulating   
   >>>>>>>>> halt   
   >>>>>>>>> decider. I used the Linz proof as my basis.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Sorrowfully Peter Linz passed away 2 days less than one year   
   >>>>>>>>> ago on my   
   >>>>>>>>> Mom's birthday July 19, 2024.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> I was the first to state that the halting problem as defined is   
   >>>>>>>> a category   
   >>>>>>>> error and I stated it in this forum.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Indeed you stated that but failed to identify the actual error. You   
   >>>>>>> did not say which word in the problem statement is wrong or what is   
   >>>>>>> the wrong category or what would be the right one.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I conclusively proved the actual category error yet   
   >>>>>> people that are only interested in rebuttal want no   
   >>>>>> part of any proof that I am correct.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Is it the same error as Flibble found?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Flibble's category error is stated abstractly.   
   >>>> My version is stated concretely.   
   >>>   
   >>> Could you post a pointer to your version?   
   >>   
   >> The category error is a type mismatch error where   
   >> a Turing Machine decider is required to report on   
   >> the behavior of a directly executed machine yet   
   >> cannot take a directly executed machine as an input.   
   >   
   > That is not a category error. A category error is a word or phrase   
   > of some category in a context that requires a word or phrase of a   
   > different category.   
   >   
      
   The category error is the mistake of assuming that   
   a directly executing Turing machine is in the category   
   of input to a Turing machine halt decider.   
      
   The category error is typically stated indirectly by   
   requiring a Turing machine based halt decider to report   
   on the behavior of a directly executed Turing machine.   
      
   It can be easily corrected by changing the requirement   
   to report on the behavior that its finite string input   
   specifies.   
      
   *I have conclusively proven that these behaviors diverge*   
   That people cannot understand this proof does not mean that   
   it is not a proof.   
      
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