Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"
|    comp.ai.philosophy    |    Perhaps we should ask SkyNet about this    |    59,235 messages    |
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
|    Message 57,692 of 59,235    |
|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: I have just proven the error of all     |
|    28 Jul 25 21:57:32    |
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/28/2025 9:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 7/28/25 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 7/28/2025 9:00 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 7/28/25 7:44 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 7/28/2025 6:26 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 7/28/25 8:34 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> void DDD()   
   >>>>>> {   
   >>>>>> HHH(DDD);   
   >>>>>> return;   
   >>>>>> }   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That you are too stupid to understand that DDD simulated   
   >>>>>> by HHH does call HHH in recursive emulation even after   
   >>>>>> I have provided fully operational code of DDD calling   
   >>>>>> HHH(DDD) in recursive emulation *IS NOT A REBUTTAL*   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What you are too stupid to understand is that while the *PROGRAM*   
   >>>>> HHH, which does the specific actions it is defined to, when it   
   >>>>> simulates the input that represents the *PROGRAM* DDD, which by   
   >>>>> definition includes the code of the HHH that it is built on, that   
   >>>>> will not reach the final state.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> HHH correctly predicts that DDD correctly simulated   
   >>>> by HHH cannot possibly reach its simulated "return"   
   >>>> statement final halt state. This is because DDD does   
   >>>> call HHH(DDD) in recursive simulation.   
   >>>   
   >>> Can't do that, as HHH doesn't correct simulate its input, since   
   >>> correct simulation requires being complete.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Never heard of mathematical induction?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > You don't have a valid induction. The problem is every version of HHH   
   > gets a different version of DDD, so you can't build the induction, as   
   > the n and n+1 steps don't relate.   
   >   
      
   The only difference in the elements of the infinite   
   set of HHH/DDD pairs where HHH emulates N instructions   
   of DDD cannot possibly have any effect on whether this   
   DDD instance reaches its "return" instruction final   
   halt state *AND YOU HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN THAT*   
      
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius   
   hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
|
[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]
(c) 1994, bbs@darkrealms.ca