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|    Richard Damon to olcott    |
|    Re: Who is telling the truth here? HHH(D    |
|    30 Jul 25 19:26:27    |
      [continued from previous message]              Then why do it assume it? If it doesn't know that it is itself, how does       it know it will "simulate" the input?              And that would be a wrong definition of the HHH that it calls, as it       actually simulates that input till it detects what it thinks is a       non-halting pattern and then returns 0.              Why did you lie to HHH about what was in the memory?              Only because if you told the truth to HHH, it would show that you       statement about HHH being correct was a lie.              > HHH just sees that DDD is calling the same function       > with the same parameter twice in sequence, just like       > Infinite_Recursion().              But the problem is HHH thinks that HHH isn't part of HHH, which would be       like saying the recursed call to Infinite_Reursion isn't part of that       program.              Since the HHH that DDD calls is part of it, HHH needs to simulate AND       SHOW that. And since that HHH has conditionals in it, you can't just       assume the loop is infinite.              Thus, your pattern is just not correct, because you lied to yourself       about what you were doing.              >       >> Further irrelevant claims without evidence ignored.       >>       >>>       >>> Perhaps you have an ACM email address and don't       >>> know very much about programming?       >       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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