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|    olcott to Fred. Zwarts    |
|    Re: Who is telling the truth here? HHH(D    |
|    02 Aug 25 09:17:27    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 8/2/2025 4:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:       > Op 01.aug.2025 om 16:54 schreef olcott:       >> On 8/1/2025 2:11 AM, joes wrote:       >>> Am Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:03:15 -0500 schrieb olcott:       >>>> On 7/31/2025 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       >>>>> On 7/31/25 8:18 PM, olcott wrote:       >>>>>> On 7/31/2025 7:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       >>>>>>> On 7/31/25 11:50 AM, olcott wrote:       >>>       >>>>>>> And that separate proccess, if left unaborted, would halt. But HHH       >>>>>>> gives up and aborts it, so the process is Halting, not non-halting.       >>>       >>>>>>> But the pattern isn't non-halting by the fact that DDD is shown       >>>>>>> to be       >>>>>>> halting.       >>>       >>>>> but since it is only finite recursion of partial simulation, since the       >>>>> first level WILL abort the process and end the recursion.       >>>       >>>>>> When N instructions of DDD are correctly emulated by every HHH that       >>>>>> can possibly exist (technically this is an infinite set of HHH/DDD       >>>>>> pairs) no emulated DDD can possibly halt and every directly executed       >>>>>> DDD() halts.       >>>>> Wrong, your problem is you forget that all those DDD are different,       >>>> It is an infinite set with every HHH/DDD pair having the same property       >>>> that each DDD cannot possibly halt.       >>       >>> Sure, but what about different HHH_n's simulating the same DDD?       >>>       >>       >> _DDD()       >> [00002192] 55 push ebp       >> [00002193] 8bec mov ebp,esp       >> [00002195] 6892210000 push 00002192 // push DDD       >> [0000219a] e833f4ffff call 000015d2 // call HHH       >> [0000219f] 83c404 add esp,+04       >> [000021a2] 5d pop ebp       >> [000021a3] c3 ret       >> Size in bytes:(0018) [000021a3]       >>       >> Each element of the infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs       >> that emulates a natural number N number of instructions       >> of DDD never halts.       >       > Because HHH aborts prematurely,       Try to prove that and you will find that       your proof is incoherent or has glaring gaps.                     --       Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius       hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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