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   olcott to Fred. Zwarts   
   Re: Who is telling the truth here? HHH(D   
   02 Aug 25 09:17:27   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/2/2025 4:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:   
   > Op 01.aug.2025 om 16:54 schreef olcott:   
   >> On 8/1/2025 2:11 AM, joes wrote:   
   >>> Am Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:03:15 -0500 schrieb olcott:   
   >>>> On 7/31/2025 7:37 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 7/31/25 8:18 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 7/31/2025 7:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 7/31/25 11:50 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>> And that separate proccess, if left unaborted, would halt. But HHH   
   >>>>>>> gives up and aborts it, so the process is Halting, not non-halting.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>> But the pattern isn't non-halting by the fact that DDD is shown   
   >>>>>>> to be   
   >>>>>>> halting.   
   >>>   
   >>>>> but since it is only finite recursion of partial simulation, since the   
   >>>>> first level WILL abort the process and end the recursion.   
   >>>   
   >>>>>> When N instructions of DDD are correctly emulated by every HHH that   
   >>>>>> can possibly exist (technically this is an infinite set of HHH/DDD   
   >>>>>> pairs) no emulated DDD can possibly halt and every directly executed   
   >>>>>> DDD() halts.   
   >>>>> Wrong, your problem is you forget that all those DDD are different,   
   >>>> It is an infinite set with every HHH/DDD pair having the same property   
   >>>> that each DDD cannot possibly halt.   
   >>   
   >>> Sure, but what about different HHH_n's simulating the same DDD?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> _DDD()   
   >> [00002192] 55         push ebp   
   >> [00002193] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   
   >> [00002195] 6892210000 push 00002192  // push DDD   
   >> [0000219a] e833f4ffff call 000015d2  // call HHH   
   >> [0000219f] 83c404     add esp,+04   
   >> [000021a2] 5d         pop ebp   
   >> [000021a3] c3         ret   
   >> Size in bytes:(0018) [000021a3]   
   >>   
   >> Each element of the infinite set of HHH/DDD pairs   
   >> that emulates a natural number N number of instructions   
   >> of DDD never halts.   
   >   
   > Because HHH aborts prematurely,   
   Try to prove that and you will find that   
   your proof is incoherent or has glaring gaps.   
      
      
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