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|    Mr Flibble to olcott    |
|    Re: There are zero chances in Hell that     |
|    03 Aug 25 15:45:42    |
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic   
   From: flibble@red-dwarf.jmc.corp   
      
   On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 10:43:25 -0500, olcott wrote:   
      
   > On 8/3/2025 9:47 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 09:25:35 -0500, olcott wrote:   
   >> >>   
   >>> Means that the simulated final halt state cannot possibly be reached.   
   >>> This *is* non-halting behavior.   
   >>   
   >> No, it isn't non-halting behaviour, it is Olcott Partial Halt Decider   
   >> (OPHD) behaviour which is nothing to do with the halting problem.   
   >>   
   >> /Flibble   
   >   
   > When a partial halt decider correctly decides the impossible input the   
   > proof that claims this input was impossible is proved wrong.   
   >   
   > When the halting problem proof claims that it has proven that no   
   > universal halt decider HHH can possibly exist on the basis that no   
   > algorithm exists that returns a Boolean value that corresponds to the   
   > behavior of this input DD:   
   >   
   > int DD()   
   > {   
   > int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
   > if (Halt_Status)   
   > HERE: goto HERE;   
   > return Halt_Status;   
   > }   
   >   
   > _DD()   
   > [00002162] 55 push ebp [00002163] 8bec mov ebp,esp   
   > [00002165] 51 push ecx [00002166] 6862210000 push   
   > 00002162 // push DD [0000216b] e862f4ffff call 000015d2 // call HHH   
   > [00002170] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002173] 8945fc mov   
   > [ebp-04],eax [00002176] 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00 [0000217a]   
   > 7402 jz 0000217e [0000217c] ebfe jmp 0000217c   
   > [0000217e] 8b45fc mov eax,[ebp-04]   
   > [00002181] 8be5 mov esp,ebp [00002183] 5d pop ebp   
   > [00002184] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0035) [00002184]   
   >   
   > This halting problem proof is proved wrong because the recursive   
   > structure of DD correctly emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its   
   > final halt state at machine address [00002184] thus HHH(DD)==0 is   
   > correct.   
      
   Yet again I have to point out to you the following:   
      
   Halting problem proofs are predicated on total deciders so cannot be   
   refuted using partial deciders.   
      
   /Flibble   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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