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   Message 57,863 of 59,235   
   olcott to Richard Heathfield   
   Re: Olcott correctly points out misconce   
   09 Aug 25 16:22:21   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/9/2025 4:12 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:   
   > On 09/08/2025 21:46, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 8/9/2025 3:41 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:   
   >   
   >    
   >>>   
   >>> You get the wrong numbers out. It don't get much more flawed than that.   
   >>>   
   >>>> At this point you are essentially saying that   
   >>>> the emulation is flawed because everyone knows   
   >>>> that "push ebp" really means "jmp 00002155".   
   >>>   
   >>> No, I'm saying it's flawed because everyone knows that 0 != 1.   
   >>>   
   >>> Those are your only two possible results: it stops, or it doesn't. If   
   >>> you get the wrong one, your emulation is broken.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Ah so you are dishonest. That is what I expected.   
   >   
   > WHAT?   
   >   
   _DD()   
   [00002162] 55             push ebp   
   [00002163] 8bec           mov ebp,esp   
   [00002165] 51             push ecx   
   [00002166] 6862210000     push 00002162 // push DD   
   [0000216b] e862f4ffff     call 000015d2 // call HHH   
   [00002170] 83c404         add esp,+04   
   [00002173] 8945fc         mov [ebp-04],eax   
   [00002176] 837dfc00       cmp dword [ebp-04],+00   
   [0000217a] 7402           jz 0000217e   
   [0000217c] ebfe           jmp 0000217c   
   [0000217e] 8b45fc         mov eax,[ebp-04]   
   [00002181] 8be5           mov esp,ebp   
   [00002183] 5d             pop ebp   
   [00002184] c3             ret   
   Size in bytes:(0035) [00002184]   
      
   You have to go through the above code line-by-line   
   knowing that each time HHH is called it creates a   
   separate process context to emulate an instance of   
   DD and then emulate an instance of itself emulating   
   DD when DD calls HHH(DD).   
      
   Within this you must show exactly how the original   
   emulated DD reaches past its own machine address of   
   [0000216b].   
      
   *If you don't know how to do this that is OK*   
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius   
   hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer   
      
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