XPost: comp.theory, comp.lang.c, comp.lang.c++   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   Five different LLM systems figured out the recursive simulation   
   non-halting behavior pattern on their own  without prompting.   
   They also correctly determined that the HP proof decider would   
   be correct to reject its input as non-halting.   
      
      
   Simulating Termination Analyzer HHH correctly simulates its input until:   
   (a) Detects a non-terminating behavior pattern:   
        abort simulation and return 0.   
   (b) Simulated input reaches its simulated "return" statement:   
        return 1.   
      
   typedef int (*ptr)();   
   int HHH(ptr P);   
      
   int DD()   
   {   
      int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
      if (Halt_Status)   
        HERE: goto HERE;   
      return Halt_Status;   
   }   
      
   What value should HHH(DD) correctly return?   
      
      
   https://claude.ai/share/da9e56ba-f4e9-45ee-9f2c-dc5ffe10f00c   
      
   https://chatgpt.com/share/68939ee5-e2f8-8011-837d-438fe8e98b9c   
      
   https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtMg%3D%3D_810120bb-5ab5-4bf8-af21-eedd0f09e141   
      
      
   Gemini had to be forced into do not guess mode   
   https://g.co/gemini/share/4f44c883b348   
      
   ChatGPT 5.0 had to be forced into do not guess mode   
   https://chatgpt.com/share/68abcbd5-cee4-8011-80d7-93e8385d90d8   
      
      
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