XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 10/22/2025 1:40 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   > On 2025-10-22, olcott  wrote:   
   >> On 10/22/2025 12:07 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-10-22, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>> On 10/22/2025 10:40 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>>> On 2025-10-22, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 10/20/2025 10:20 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> And when I identify a flaw yo simply ignore   
   >>>>>>>> whatever I say.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Nope; all the ways you say claim you've identified a flaw have been   
   >>>>>>> dissected by multiple poeple to a much greater detail than they   
   deserve.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It is disingenuous to say that you've simply had your details ignored.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Turing machines in general can only compute mappings   
   >>>>>> from their inputs. The halting problem requires computing   
   >>>>>> mappings that in some cases are not provided in the   
   >>>>>> inputs therefore the halting problem is wrong.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The halting problem positively does not propose anything   
   >>>>> like that, which would be gapingly wrong.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It only seems that way because you are unable to   
   >>>   
   >>> No, it doesn't only seem that way. Thanks for playing.   
   >>>   
   >>>> provide the actual mapping that the actual input   
   >>>> to HHH(DD) specifies when DD is simulated by HHH   
   >>>> according to the semantics of the C language,   
   >>>   
   >>> DD is a "finite string input" which specifies a behavior that is   
   >>> independent of what simulates it,   
   >>   
   >> That is stupidly incorrect.   
   >> That DD calls HHH(DD) (its own simulator) IS PART OF   
   >> THE BEHAVIOR THAT THE INPUT TO HHH(DD) SPECIFIES.   
   >   
   > In no way am I saying that DD is not built on HHH, and   
   > does not have a behavior dependent on that of HHH.   
   > Why would I ever say that?   
   >   
   > But that entire bundle is one fixed case DD, with a single behavior,   
   > which is a property of DD, which is a finite string.   
   >   
      
   That too is stupidly incorrect.   
   It is the job of every simulating halt decider   
   to predict what the behavior of it simulated   
   input would be if it never aborted.   
      
   When a person is asked a yes or no question   
   there are not two separate people in parallel   
   universes one that answers yes and one that   
   answers no. There is one person that thinks   
   through both hypothetical possibilities and   
   then provides one answer.   
      
      
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