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   olcott to Kaz Kylheku   
   Re: Kaz ---Keith said DDD simulated by H   
   15 Nov 25 15:49:20   
   
   XPost: comp.theory   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 11/15/2025 3:33 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   > On 2025-11-15, olcott  wrote:   
   >> On 11/15/2025 2:11 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>> On 2025-11-15, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>> On 11/15/2025 12:11 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>>> What I mean by that is that the simulation of D   
   >>>>> doesn't reach that statement while conducted by H.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Thus conclusively proving the the input to H(D)   
   >>>   
   >>> No, the mere incompleteness of a simulation does not prove   
   >>> that the subject terminates or does not terminate.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>> On 2025-11-05, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The whole point is that D simulated by H   
   >>>> cannot possbly reach its own simulated   
   >>>> "return" statement no matter what H does.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes; this doesn't happen while H is running.   
   >>>   
   >>> So while H does /something/, no matter what H does,   
   >>> that D simulation won't reach the return statement.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You already admitted that D simulated by H   
   >> cannot possibly reach its own final halt state.   
   >   
   > The full limit of my observation is this: the /simulation/ conducted by   
   > H, of D, is not conducted far enough to reproduce the situation where D   
   > returns. That's the most exact wording, no more no less.   
   >   
      
   That is a damned lie. When I said damned I mean that   
   you might actually be condemned to actual Hell.   
   The whole purpose of my 28 year long primary research   
   was to show how "true on the basis of meaning" can be   
   made computable.   
      
   In the intervening time the survival of life on Earth   
   has come to depend on such a system that can refute the   
   hired liars of climate change.   
      
   Severe anthropogenic climate change   
   proven entirely with verifiable facts   
      
   https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336568434_Severe_anthro   
   ogenic_climate_change_proven_entirely_with_verifiable_facts   
      
      
   So while you may think that your lies are mere trollish   
   fun if the planet is killed off in part because of your   
   lies their may be actual Hell toupee.   
      
    > On 2025-11-05, olcott  wrote:   
    >>   
    >> The whole point is that D simulated by H   
    >> cannot possbly reach its own simulated   
    >> "return" statement no matter what H does.   
    >   
    > Yes; this doesn't happen while H is running.   
    >   
    > So while H does /something/, no matter what H does,   
    > that D simulation won't reach the return statement.   
    >   
      
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius   
   hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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