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   Kaz Kylheku to olcott   
   Re: polcott agrees the halting problem i   
   20 Nov 25 22:10:07   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: 643-408-1753@kylheku.com   
      
   On 2025-11-20, olcott  wrote:   
   > On 11/19/2025 10:42 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-20, olcott  wrote:   
   >>> On 11/19/2025 3:41 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-11-19, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>> The sound basis of this reasoning is the   
   >>>>> semantics of the C programming language.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> ... and, note,   
   >>> that you dishonestly erased most of the context   
   >>   
   >> That's just the same pseudo-code snppet you've posted   
   >> hundreds of times.   
   >>   
   >   
   > The idea is that I will keep repeating this   
   > until you pay attention   
   >   
   > int DD()   
   > {   
   >    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
   >    if (Halt_Status)   
   >      HERE: goto HERE;   
   >    return Halt_Status;   
   > }   
   >   
   > int main()   
   > {   
   >    HHH(DD);   
   > }   
   >   
      
   I've given ths an incredible amount of attention.   
      
   > HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)   
   > that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
      
   If HHH(DD) returns 0, it's this;   
      
      HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)   
        - that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
            - that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
            - but only partially, returning 0.   
            - such that DD terminates.   
        - but only partially, returning 0.   
        - such that DD terminates.   
      
   Adding another level:   
      
      HHH simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)   
        - that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
            - that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
               - that simulates DD that calls HHH(DD)...   
                 - that ...   
                   - that ...   
                     - that ...   
               - but only partially, returning 0.   
               - such that DD terminates.   
            - but only partially, returning 0.   
            - such that DD terminates.   
        - but only partially, returning 0.   
        - such that DD terminates.   
      
   Infinite simulation tower: finite DD's.   
      
   Since you don't grok this but I do, obviously the one who has   
   paid more attention is me.   
      
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