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   olcott to Mikko   
   Re: The halting problem is incorrect two   
   26 Nov 25 09:17:29   
   
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   >>>>>>>> correctly report on the behavior of its caller   
   >>>>>>>> and no halt decider can even see its actual caller.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Every halt decider is required to report on the behaviour asked   
   >>>>>>> about.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And this is incorrect when it has not access to   
   >>>>>> the behavior that it is asked about.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, it is not. The solution to the halting problem must include the   
   >>>>> necessary access. Conversely, a proof that the necessary access is   
   >>>>> impossible is sufficient to prove that halting problem is unsolvable.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Reporing on the behavior of DD() executed from   
   >>>> main requires HHH to report on information   
   >>>> that is not contained in its input thus it is   
   >>>> incorrect to require HHH to report on that.   
   >>>   
   >>> That HHH fails to meet the requirements does not mean that the   
   >>> requirements are wrong. It merely meas that HHH is not a halt   
   >>> decider.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> That HHH fails to meet the requirements by itself does   
   >> not mean that the requirements are wrong.   
   >>   
   >> Turing machine deciders only compute a mapping from   
   >> their [finite string] inputs to an accept or reject   
   >> state on the basis that this [finite string] input   
   >> specifies or fails to specify a semantic or syntactic   
   >> property.   
   >>   
   >> That the information that HHH is required to report   
   >> on simply is not contained in its input is what makes   
   >> the requirements wrong.   
   >   
   > No, it merely means that the designer ot HHH has failed to specify the   
   > encoding rules so that the input contains the full specification of the   
   > behaviour.   
   >   
      
   In other words you are trying to get away with   
   disagreeing with the semantics of the x86 language   
   or the semantics of the C programing language.   
      
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