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|    olcott to Mikko    |
|    Re: A new foundation for correct reasoni    |
|    28 Nov 25 09:51:02    |
      XPost: sci.logic, comp.theory, sci.math       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 11/28/2025 2:58 AM, Mikko wrote:       > olcott kirjoitti 27.11.2025 klo 17.31:       >> On 11/27/2025 1:56 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>> olcott kirjoitti 26.11.2025 klo 17.39:       >>>> On 11/26/2025 5:37 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>>>> olcott kirjoitti 25.11.2025 klo 16.21:       >>>>>> On 11/25/2025 3:40 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>>>>>> olcott kirjoitti 25.11.2025 klo 2.53:       >>>>>>>> Eliminating undecidability and mathematical incompleteness       >>>>>>>> merely requires discarding model theory and fully integrating       >>>>>>>> semantics directly into the syntax of the formal language.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> The only inference step allowed is semantic logical       >>>>>>>> entailment and this is performed syntactically. A formal       >>>>>>>> language such as Montague Grammar or CycL of the Cyc       >>>>>>>> project can encode the semantics of anything that can       >>>>>>>> be expressed in language.       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>> The resulting theory is not formal unless both the definition of       >>>>>>> semantics and the definition of semantic logical entailment are       >>>>>>> fully formal.       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>       >>>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/montague-semantics/       >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CycL       >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_(information_science)       >>>>>>       >>>>>> *This was my original inspiration*       >>>>>> Kurt Gödel in his 1944 Russell's mathematical logic gave the       >>>>>> following definition of the "theory of simple types" in a footnote:       >>>>>>       >>>>>> By the theory of simple types I mean the doctrine which says that       >>>>>> the objects of thought (or, in another interpretation, the       >>>>>> symbolic expressions) are divided into types, namely: individuals,       >>>>>> properties of individuals, relations between individuals,       >>>>>> properties of such relations, etc. (with a similar hierarchy for       >>>>>> extensions), and that sentences of the form: " a has the property       >>>>>> φ ", " b bears the relation R to c ", etc. are meaningless, if a,       >>>>>> b, c, R, φ are not of types fitting together.       >>>>>       >>>>> That is a constraint on the language. Note that individuals of all       >>>>> sorts       >>>>> are considered to be of the same type. For properies and relation the       >>>>> alternative would be that a predicate is false if any of the arguments       >>>>> are of wrong type. For functions it is harder to find a reasonable       >>>>> value       >>>>> if an argument is of wrong type.       >>>>>       >>>>> This is of course irrelevant to the point that the resulting theory is       >>>>> not formal unless both the definition of semantics and the       >>>>> definition of       >>>>> semantic logical entailment are fully formal.       >>>>       >>>> The body of knowledge is defined in terms of Rudolf Carnap Meaning       >>>> Postulates and stored in a knowledge ontology inheritance hierarchy.       >>>>       >>>> The predicate Bachelor(x) is stipulated to mean ~Married(x) where       >>>> the predicate Married(x) is defined in terms of billions of other       >>>> things such as all of the details of Human(x).       >>>       >>> That, too, is irrelevant to the point that the resulting theory is not       >>> formal unless both the definition of semantics and the definition of       >>> semantic logical entailment are fully formal.       >       >> In Olcott's Minimal Type Theory Rudolf Carnap Meaning       >> Postulates directly encode semantic meaning in the syntax.       >       > if the encoding is not fully formally specified the theory is not       > formal.       >       >> The meaningless finite string "Bachelor" is defined as       >> a semantic predicate through other already defined terms       >> ∀x (Bachelor(x) := (Male(x) ∧ Human(x) ∧ ~Married(x)))       >> Adapted by Olcott from Rudolf Carnap Meaning postulates.       >>       >> And encoded in the syntax of Olcott's Minimal Type Theory       >> https://philarchive.org/archive/PETMTT-4v2       >       > That page only tells how to define a sentence in terms of other       > sentences. As it does not permit any arguments on the left side of :=       > the expression ∀x (Bachelor(x) := (Male(x) ∧ Human(x) ∧ ~Married(x)))       > is syntactically invalid.       >              ∀x ∈ Human (Bachelor(x) ↔ (Male(x) ∧ Adult(x) ∧ ~Married(x)))               |
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