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   Message 58,577 of 59,235   
   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: Very simple first principles showing   
   11 Dec 25 07:47:17   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/11/2025 6:14 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/10/25 10:33 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 12/10/2025 9:21 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 12/10/25 9:19 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/10/2025 8:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/10/25 9:00 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>>> *It has take me 21 years to boil it down to this*   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> When the halting problem requires a halt decider   
   >>>>>> to report on the behavior of a Turing machine this   
   >>>>>> is always a category error.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> The corrected halting problem requires a Turing   
   >>>>>> machine decider to report in the behavior that   
   >>>>>> its finite string input specifies.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And since the input specifies the behavior of the Turing Machine it   
   >>>>> represents when run,   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Counter-factual, but then you have only ever been   
   >>>> a somewhat smart bot stuck in rebuttal mode.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> WHy do you say that?   
   >>> What grounds do you have for that claim?   
   >>> Do you even know what you are saying?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> That is the behavior pattern that you have been   
   >> consistently showing with every post for years.   
   >   
   > You mean asking you to actual prove your claims?   
   >   
      
   I always prove my claims you always dismiss them   
   with dogma and rhetoric utterly bereft of any of   
   any supporting reasoning like you just did.   
      
   int DD()   
   {   
      int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
      if (Halt_Status)   
        HERE: goto HERE;   
      return Halt_Status;   
   }   
      
   It is a verified fact that N steps of DD simulated   
   by HHH according to the semantics of the C programming   
   do prove a behavior pattern that cannot possibly reach   
   the "return" statement final halt state of DD in any   
   number of steps.   
      
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   Copyright 2025 Olcott

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       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
       reliably computable.

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