XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 17/12/2025 03:36, olcott wrote:   
   > Turing Machines only transform finite string inputs into values.   
   >   
      
   No: "only"-ambiguity again.   
   No: non-elementary wrt. "values".   
      
   Maybe "finite string inputs" ought to be "expressions on finite segments   
   of tapes" if you're trying to talk about machines as Turing did in 1939   
   and physical ones at that rather than about expositions in C that are of   
   derived concepts.   
      
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