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   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: The primary first principle of all T   
   17 Dec 25 22:38:13   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/17/2025 6:31 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/16/25 10:36 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> Turing Machines only transform finite string inputs into values.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Right, and there correctness is based on the value they compute matching   
   > the answer to the question they are supposed to be answering.   
   >   
      
   If the answer to the question is not encoded in the   
   input then this is not an undecidable decision problem   
   instance it is an incorrect question.   
      
   It must be actually encoded in the input such   
   that it can be decoded from the input otherwise   
   the question is incorrect.   
      
   > So, for a supposed Halt Decider, that is does the machine that finite   
   > string represents halt when it is run.   
      
      
      
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